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29.12.2019 12:01:53
viscerae

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Ok but Cats though? I am so ready to go watch it purely to witness the horror, the cursedness of it all with my own eyes. You ever look at movie and just know that, even though it will never truly get on the same level as The Room far as meme status goes, it got close? That's Cats.

speaking of horror, the trailer for cats reminds me vaguely of "h is for hydroelectric diffusion" from the abcs of death. must be the cgi furries. 
I went and watched this thing. What even is the ABCs of death, is it all like this. Must research.
so how was the experience? :p the abcs of death is a horror anthology, with each letter being a short film by a different director. so they're pretty different from each other. a lot of the letters aren't worth watching imo, but there are some that i found better. one of my faves is from the abcs of death 2, "z is for zygote"
Oooh no. Nope. I'm already creeped out by the concept of a perfectly normal pregnancy, I am not subjecting myself to whatever that's gonna be like.

And it was bizarre, gradually more and more out of this world but I enjoyed that.
ikr? i find pregnancy kinda horrifying already, and it was cool how they managed to make it into something so sinister. and hey, it's exactly what kids do, they kill you from the inside and wear your skin.
Literally feed on you... Like vampires. Twilight had that right
i have finally lived long enough for twilight to not get something wrong lmao. 

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29.12.2019 13:04:05
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viscerae wrote:
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
viscerae wrote:
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
viscerae wrote:
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
viscerae wrote:
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
Ok but Cats though? I am so ready to go watch it purely to witness the horror, the cursedness of it all with my own eyes. You ever look at movie and just know that, even though it will never truly get on the same level as The Room far as meme status goes, it got close? That's Cats.

speaking of horror, the trailer for cats reminds me vaguely of "h is for hydroelectric diffusion" from the abcs of death. must be the cgi furries. 
I went and watched this thing. What even is the ABCs of death, is it all like this. Must research.
so how was the experience? :p the abcs of death is a horror anthology, with each letter being a short film by a different director. so they're pretty different from each other. a lot of the letters aren't worth watching imo, but there are some that i found better. one of my faves is from the abcs of death 2, "z is for zygote"
Oooh no. Nope. I'm already creeped out by the concept of a perfectly normal pregnancy, I am not subjecting myself to whatever that's gonna be like.

And it was bizarre, gradually more and more out of this world but I enjoyed that.
ikr? i find pregnancy kinda horrifying already, and it was cool how they managed to make it into something so sinister. and hey, it's exactly what kids do, they kill you from the inside and wear your skin.
Literally feed on you... Like vampires. Twilight had that right
i have finally lived long enough for twilight to not get something wrong lmao. 
I read the series along with my friend when we were horny teens and I'm not ashamed to admit that I still enjoy parts of the books. One part being Bella's crazy horrifying childbirth experience, I remember reading that and being like Stephanie! Girl. G i r l. I also still read the second book on the rare occasion I really feel like re-living Jacob and Bella's depression relationship. New Moon is the closest thing Bella had to character development, or character in the first place and I think that's why I actually enjoy guilty pleasure reading that. Nearly everything else about the books bores me these days, because fact is I'm narcissistic enough that in order for me to enjoy a story it needs to have a queer protagonist.

Now the movies though? Beautiful. Wonderful. I fucking love watching them. When they're bad it's funny and when they're good it's nice.

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30.12.2019 15:49:06
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AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
I read the series along with my friend when we were horny teens and I'm not ashamed to admit that I still enjoy parts of the books. One part being Bella's crazy horrifying childbirth experience, I remember reading that and being like Stephanie! Girl. G i r l. I also still read the second book on the rare occasion I really feel like re-living Jacob and Bella's depression relationship. New Moon is the closest thing Bella had to character development, or character in the first place and I think that's why I actually enjoy guilty pleasure reading that. Nearly everything else about the books bores me these days, because fact is I'm narcissistic enough that in order for me to enjoy a story it needs to have a queer protagonist.

Now the movies though? Beautiful. Wonderful. I fucking love watching them. When they're bad it's funny and when they're good it's nice.
first of all, i can see how it would appeal to the horny teen demographic, there's some "conservativeness" to the smut (if that's what it can be called? pandering to teens while still not going the full on porn direction). all i remember is reading the books out of hatred; the idea had potential imo, but i'm not a fan of stephenie's writing. also, i found it super creepy and unnecessary to have that werewolf imprinting thing and then get jacob to imprint on renesmee. like, ew. and he was one of my favourite characters in the books, idk he just felt more like an actual teenager than bella, for instance :/

there was one thing in particular that got me that might not have been so important, but when edward and bella went to brazil for their honeymoon... it was like, damn, stephenie, you didn't research the countries you're writing about, did you? geographically, the vampire family (if i remember correctly) owns an island near rio de janeiro. there aren't that many islands here, especially ones that could just be straight up isolated and hidden from view. i may be wrong, though, but anyways. 

the next thing that bugged me: she had a description for a mythological brazilian creature that she made up, and called it "libishomen" or sth, basically werewolf but misspelled. thing is, that description was somewhat similar to an existing myth, about the pink river dolphin, so it made it seem even more like she hadn't done research. 

in the books defense, it prompted lengthy conversations in school. and ideas that included replacing the vampires with dolphins.
oof im so sorry for rambling, apologies to anyone who read all this bullshit

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30.12.2019 16:23:25
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Honestly there's a lot of issues I have with the books but that's all old news.

Like the third one being basically the Jacob's character assasination book, because oopsie! People actually don't like it when the li man is controlling af. Eclipse is also the Edward blackmails marriage out of Bella and Bella attempts to blackmail sex out of Edward book. Eclipse, just in general, is the worst of the books because it was so much about everyone's dysfunctional relationships and so little about anything fun.

Don't be sorry, it was interesting to know about the island stuff. And like, I thought we wanted active forums so this should be ok? I think.

When people are like "I hate twilight" I always want to ask them why. Because I agree, the writing isn't good, the main characters aren't interesting and the strongest part of the series is the supporting cast and things like the volturi. But I wish people were more aware of if by hate they mean "I don't like the writing" or "I don't like it because teen girls liked it and teen girls are annoying bwuhuhuu!" Because only one of those is reasonable to me. But yeah enough about this.

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30.12.2019 16:44:59
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I read the Twilight series when I was in my 20s and for the first 100 or so pages I was annoyed by the juvenile language, even though I knew the books were aimed at a much younger audience. Then I started really enjoying the story, up until the break-up where I went back to being annoyed but this time with the Bella-character because I found her love obsessive and unnatural, especially for a teenage girl having dated this guy for only a few months. I gradually went back to enjoying the story when Jacob was re-introduced, but then the whole "oh no, two guys like me" drama felt forced and prolonged to me, I mean, just choose one and be done with it! I continued to read of course but was utterly grossed out by the whole pregnancy thing, and when Renesmee (oh lord what a dumb name!) was born and all the focus was on her, it really killed the entire series for me.

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02.01.2020 22:01:47
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Hi everyone! I’m kind of new-ish to Bimboland and have been enjoying my time here so far!

On the topic of Twilight, does anyone kind of sympathize with Stephenie Meyer? ...In a weird way? Lindsay Ellis made a video essay a few years ago discussing the sheer amount of hate Meyer received because, as AlienPrinceFromVenus mentioned, Twilight was popular among women and some people hated that.

I’m not doubting that a portion of the hate also stemmed from her writing skill or naivety/ignorance (Which is completely valid - Twilight has a lot of gross situations that should be criticized!), but now that I’m older I get sad seeing media with a heavy female fanbase get shit on just because girls like it.

Did you guys do that Spotify yearly statistics review? What genres did you listen to the most?


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06.01.2020 18:55:21
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viscerae wrote:
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
I read the series along with my friend when we were horny teens and I'm not ashamed to admit that I still enjoy parts of the books. One part being Bella's crazy horrifying childbirth experience, I remember reading that and being like Stephanie! Girl. G i r l. I also still read the second book on the rare occasion I really feel like re-living Jacob and Bella's depression relationship. New Moon is the closest thing Bella had to character development, or character in the first place and I think that's why I actually enjoy guilty pleasure reading that. Nearly everything else about the books bores me these days, because fact is I'm narcissistic enough that in order for me to enjoy a story it needs to have a queer protagonist.

Now the movies though? Beautiful. Wonderful. I fucking love watching them. When they're bad it's funny and when they're good it's nice.
first of all, i can see how it would appeal to the horny teen demographic, there's some "conservativeness" to the smut (if that's what it can be called? pandering to teens while still not going the full on porn direction). all i remember is reading the books out of hatred; the idea had potential imo, but i'm not a fan of stephenie's writing. also, i found it super creepy and unnecessary to have that werewolf imprinting thing and then get jacob to imprint on renesmee. like, ew. and he was one of my favourite characters in the books, idk he just felt more like an actual teenager than bella, for instance :/

there was one thing in particular that got me that might not have been so important, but when edward and bella went to brazil for their honeymoon... it was like, damn, stephenie, you didn't research the countries you're writing about, did you? geographically, the vampire family (if i remember correctly) owns an island near rio de janeiro. there aren't that many islands here, especially ones that could just be straight up isolated and hidden from view. i may be wrong, though, but anyways. 

the next thing that bugged me: she had a description for a mythological brazilian creature that she made up, and called it "libishomen" or sth, basically werewolf but misspelled. thing is, that description was somewhat similar to an existing myth, about the pink river dolphin, so it made it seem even more like she hadn't done research. 

in the books defense, it prompted lengthy conversations in school. and ideas that included replacing the vampires with dolphins.
oof im so sorry for rambling, apologies to anyone who read all this bullshit
i totally feel u, u don't have to apologize! plus the depiction of native americans in Twilight was perhaps of much more gravity in its insensitivity and not doing any research into like. basic cultural sensitivity. she (meyer) chose the location of forks just bc she googled it and saw that the Quileute tribe nearby but didn't know jackshit about them or do any research (she has admitted this)...and her books have had real-life consequences for the Quileute people, obviously--massive amounts of tourism basically capitalizing off the perceived 'exotic-ness' of the Quileute culture and stereotypical images of indigenous ppl in general. and they barely get any cuts in the profits of the tour companies despite meyer having built a massive empire, almost, off this shitty book series, so they still suffer in poverty. on a larger scale this was just one more stereotypical and harmful depiction of natives in hollywood, from the portrayal of Quileute culture, to the implication of werewolf blood being 'savage' in contrast to the eliteness of vampires, to the romance between bella and jacob. further reading:  http://film.byu.edu/aperture/?p=187

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07.01.2020 09:57:05
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diboob wrote:
viscerae wrote:
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:
I read the series along with my friend when we were horny teens and I'm not ashamed to admit that I still enjoy parts of the books. One part being Bella's crazy horrifying childbirth experience, I remember reading that and being like Stephanie! Girl. G i r l. I also still read the second book on the rare occasion I really feel like re-living Jacob and Bella's depression relationship. New Moon is the closest thing Bella had to character development, or character in the first place and I think that's why I actually enjoy guilty pleasure reading that. Nearly everything else about the books bores me these days, because fact is I'm narcissistic enough that in order for me to enjoy a story it needs to have a queer protagonist.

Now the movies though? Beautiful. Wonderful. I fucking love watching them. When they're bad it's funny and when they're good it's nice.
first of all, i can see how it would appeal to the horny teen demographic, there's some "conservativeness" to the smut (if that's what it can be called? pandering to teens while still not going the full on porn direction). all i remember is reading the books out of hatred; the idea had potential imo, but i'm not a fan of stephenie's writing. also, i found it super creepy and unnecessary to have that werewolf imprinting thing and then get jacob to imprint on renesmee. like, ew. and he was one of my favourite characters in the books, idk he just felt more like an actual teenager than bella, for instance :/

there was one thing in particular that got me that might not have been so important, but when edward and bella went to brazil for their honeymoon... it was like, damn, stephenie, you didn't research the countries you're writing about, did you? geographically, the vampire family (if i remember correctly) owns an island near rio de janeiro. there aren't that many islands here, especially ones that could just be straight up isolated and hidden from view. i may be wrong, though, but anyways. 

the next thing that bugged me: she had a description for a mythological brazilian creature that she made up, and called it "libishomen" or sth, basically werewolf but misspelled. thing is, that description was somewhat similar to an existing myth, about the pink river dolphin, so it made it seem even more like she hadn't done research. 

in the books defense, it prompted lengthy conversations in school. and ideas that included replacing the vampires with dolphins.
oof im so sorry for rambling, apologies to anyone who read all this bullshit
i totally feel u, u don't have to apologize! plus the depiction of native americans in Twilight was perhaps of much more gravity in its insensitivity and not doing any research into like. basic cultural sensitivity. she (meyer) chose the location of forks just bc she googled it and saw that the Quileute tribe nearby but didn't know jackshit about them or do any research (she has admitted this)...and her books have had real-life consequences for the Quileute people, obviously--massive amounts of tourism basically capitalizing off the perceived 'exotic-ness' of the Quileute culture and stereotypical images of indigenous ppl in general. and they barely get any cuts in the profits of the tour companies despite meyer having built a massive empire, almost, off this shitty book series, so they still suffer in poverty. on a larger scale this was just one more stereotypical and harmful depiction of natives in hollywood, from the portrayal of Quileute culture, to the implication of werewolf blood being 'savage' in contrast to the eliteness of vampires, to the romance between bella and jacob. further reading:  http://film.byu.edu/aperture/?p=187
That's fucking horrible! I somehow thought that she had just made up Forks and the Quiletue, and while I knew there were issues in the depiction of Native Americans there as a non US dweller I didn't really understand the nuance beyond "harmful stereotyping", but the fact that these people actually exist and have had to be affected by a damn horny book series is way worse.

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07.01.2020 11:30:32
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diboob wrote:

i totally feel u, u don't have to apologize! plus the depiction of native americans in Twilight was perhaps of much more gravity in its insensitivity and not doing any research into like. basic cultural sensitivity. she (meyer) chose the location of forks just bc she googled it and saw that the Quileute tribe nearby but didn't know jackshit about them or do any research (she has admitted this)...and her books have had real-life consequences for the Quileute people, obviously--massive amounts of tourism basically capitalizing off the perceived 'exotic-ness' of the Quileute culture and stereotypical images of indigenous ppl in general. and they barely get any cuts in the profits of the tour companies despite meyer having built a massive empire, almost, off this shitty book series, so they still suffer in poverty. on a larger scale this was just one more stereotypical and harmful depiction of natives in hollywood, from the portrayal of Quileute culture, to the implication of werewolf blood being 'savage' in contrast to the eliteness of vampires, to the romance between bella and jacob. further reading:  http://film.byu.edu/aperture/?p=18 
fuck, i didn't know her books had had that effect on the quileute people! now it seems even worse, because of the real-life consequences of exoticizing a real-life culture based off of personal prejudices instead of doing proper research on a people she was writing about. 

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