Vita Brevis wrote:
This is the "let everyone see every outfit" suggestion I've come up with and it sucks but whatever, you come up with something and write it out if you want it to feel competitive and "organized" like a contest.
In the case of 176 contestants, I would want to see 22 entries per group with a total of 8 groups to vote in, and the ability to vote for up to, say, 5 entries in that group. Specifically because that cuts it down to 80 because you want to cut the pool in about half. Then from the top 80 you do maybe like, 4 groups of 20 with up to 5 votes in each group. That cuts it from the top 80 to the top 20. Top 20 is the magic number that you want to work back from for determining group sizes because Top 20 has a brackets from there-on, which would pair up people in order of the number of votes they had, so people with higher votes faced other people with higher votes. First round of brackets cuts out 10 people to a top 10, second round of brackets gives a top 5, third round of brackets determines who takes 1st thru 5th.The first downside to this is that it could take longer, unless you allotted the days differently. First cut across 2 days, second cut across 2 days (which takes you to top 20 in this example), then you have one day for brackets round 1, one day for brackets round 2, and one day for brackets round 3, which gives you 7 days of voting, you've seen every single outfit, been active on the site, and participated. Yeehaw.The second downside to this structure is getting users to vote in every group so one doesn't get completely shit on with fewer votes. For that reason I'd suggest randomizing which group shows up as "group 1" for each user, and randomizing the order in which groups are presented to users that vote in multiple. To encourage more voting, you could get like a small additional daily award for voting in each group to give incentive for voting. I'd also give voting its own set of missions where, "if you vote in every group you get points toward a badge that represents active participation in the DQFC community. If you vote in the group/knockout stage you get the bronze, in the brackets you get silver, and if you vote in every stage of a single DQFC you get a gold badge." Call the badge "Bimboland Has Voted Jan 2019" or something cheesy knocking off American/British Idol. But you would/should get a reward for each group that you do vote in. And to give it longevity across the months, label the ones for each month just like the DQFC rewards, and each time you collect your gold badge you get the same lil reward and nod of thanks for participating in the DQFC. Even if you didn't do that, giving the DQFC voting its own set of missions so it feels like a "big deal" every month that people can look forward to for rewards would be lit.
Accurate tracking of these things is hard and mathing it all out is pretty wack. I'm not a math guy, I just do stats analysis and market research and stuff. Idk if I'd suggest my exact structure, but I would 100% support some way of cutting to a top 20 and doing brackets from there, because I think it adds a little edge to the competition and edge is fun, and even though my idea is pretty wack too, it's better than what we've got now.
Really I should just copypasta this somewhere else and start its own full thread, but I fear nobody would read it or take it seriously, but since serious players, forum guards, and big-deal people are in this thread I think its worth it for you guys to look over and consider.
AlienPrinceFromVenus wrote:A million times this. It isn't that hard to set a "no repeats" condition. As it is now, I'd be okay with seeing more than ten outfits a day as long as I could pick more than three to vote for at that time. I'd kinda like it better if the system was set up so that there was a "group stage" where everyone would vote from the same randomly-generated groups at the beginning. Like, big batches of entries. I'll come up with an example, because now I'm thinking about this.Thanks for doing these unofficial polls Kirsty, and congrats to everyone <3Yeah, totally. Let's do the math. There were 176 contestants in the most recent DQFC, however voters are only able to view up to 70 outfits during the entire contest. Less than that actually, because repeat outfits happen. Can you imagine any other beauty pageant where the judges decide the winner after seeing only 39.8% of the contestants? That means 60.2% of entries were never seen. Yet we pay B$500 to enter.
Honestly I'm so mad that with the current system you don't get to see all the entries no matter what, because not everyone signs up for the unofficial poll either (and I'm not mad at the people who choose not to or don't know they can do this obviously, just mad at the situation). I third what Vita and Viscerae said about the official voting system. It's ridiculous imo that the winner is based on a seemingly randomized lottery of "who you get to see this time", rather than being a normal fair voting situation like the unofficial poll.
This is the "let everyone see every outfit" suggestion I've come up with and it sucks but whatever, you come up with something and write it out if you want it to feel competitive and "organized" like a contest.
In the case of 176 contestants, I would want to see 22 entries per group with a total of 8 groups to vote in, and the ability to vote for up to, say, 5 entries in that group. Specifically because that cuts it down to 80 because you want to cut the pool in about half. Then from the top 80 you do maybe like, 4 groups of 20 with up to 5 votes in each group. That cuts it from the top 80 to the top 20. Top 20 is the magic number that you want to work back from for determining group sizes because Top 20 has a brackets from there-on, which would pair up people in order of the number of votes they had, so people with higher votes faced other people with higher votes. First round of brackets cuts out 10 people to a top 10, second round of brackets gives a top 5, third round of brackets determines who takes 1st thru 5th.The first downside to this is that it could take longer, unless you allotted the days differently. First cut across 2 days, second cut across 2 days (which takes you to top 20 in this example), then you have one day for brackets round 1, one day for brackets round 2, and one day for brackets round 3, which gives you 7 days of voting, you've seen every single outfit, been active on the site, and participated. Yeehaw.The second downside to this structure is getting users to vote in every group so one doesn't get completely shit on with fewer votes. For that reason I'd suggest randomizing which group shows up as "group 1" for each user, and randomizing the order in which groups are presented to users that vote in multiple. To encourage more voting, you could get like a small additional daily award for voting in each group to give incentive for voting. I'd also give voting its own set of missions where, "if you vote in every group you get points toward a badge that represents active participation in the DQFC community. If you vote in the group/knockout stage you get the bronze, in the brackets you get silver, and if you vote in every stage of a single DQFC you get a gold badge." Call the badge "Bimboland Has Voted Jan 2019" or something cheesy knocking off American/British Idol. But you would/should get a reward for each group that you do vote in. And to give it longevity across the months, label the ones for each month just like the DQFC rewards, and each time you collect your gold badge you get the same lil reward and nod of thanks for participating in the DQFC. Even if you didn't do that, giving the DQFC voting its own set of missions so it feels like a "big deal" every month that people can look forward to for rewards would be lit.
Accurate tracking of these things is hard and mathing it all out is pretty wack. I'm not a math guy, I just do stats analysis and market research and stuff. Idk if I'd suggest my exact structure, but I would 100% support some way of cutting to a top 20 and doing brackets from there, because I think it adds a little edge to the competition and edge is fun, and even though my idea is pretty wack too, it's better than what we've got now.
Really I should just copypasta this somewhere else and start its own full thread, but I fear nobody would read it or take it seriously, but since serious players, forum guards, and big-deal people are in this thread I think its worth it for you guys to look over and consider.
