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10.12.2015
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HeavenLeighBimbo

Poll: Should Team Spam be a sport allowed in the games section of the forum?

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HeavenLeighBimbo
HeavenLeighBimbo
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HeavenLeighBimbo
10.12.2015 18:44:45
HeavenLeighBimbo
" Should this type of game be allowed ? " I asked myself.
Recently a game has started that  I have reservations about allowing to continue.  It reminds me of organized team spam for reputation points...

We had a debate about this subject about 3 weeks ago, when a single player created a spam thread for reputation points.  I  decided to allow it, and the fad quickly died with the new player who lost interest after writing , jdsfgjhfgsdjfhgd, 2000 times, and the mocking they got from other citizens.
 My concern is that two player teams doing this is blatantly abusive of the spirit of the forum, and an unfair advantage to players who join those teams against those players who don't use the forums in such a competitive manner.  Benefiting from spam doesn't seem very sporting to me. This is a perfect case to let the players write the new law, with debate.  
  I plan on laying out my case in detail.

 I am opening this poll to everyone to debate the fate of this game.
           Please read some of the comments before voting.




10.12.2015 18:44:45
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Ceres
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Ceres
10.12.2015 18:52:44
Ceres
Well i said no but really we don't know what rep points are for so i guess putting up games are there to just build them up for fun.
I can't compete with quick typers so I just don't enter. 

10.12.2015 18:52:44
Ms. Crushinator
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Ms. Crushinator
10.12.2015 19:04:56
Ms. Crushinator
The big one is my fault D:
I'll say that I wouldn't really mind if they got banned.

10.12.2015 19:04:56
SuperGlamorousGirl!!
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SuperGlamorousGirl!!
10.12.2015 19:28:03
SuperGlamorousGirl!!
The whole game section is to get reputation, besides having fun.
I'm not constant enough for that kind of games. I know it's an advantage from those ones, but the possibility is open to everyone. One spam game thread won't hurt. Having uncountable threads for spam would be a pain in the ass. If it's controlled it could work. If it's just for fun and rep points, nothing should happen. The issue is that now reputation can give you money, so the "spammers" will be always on top, getting the prize, and that could have most of the "non-spammers" complaining.

10.12.2015 19:28:03
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Ceres
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10.12.2015 19:42:19
Ceres
SuperGlamorousGirl!! wrote:
The issue is that now reputation can give you money, so the "spammers" will be always on top, getting the prize, and that could have most of the "non-spammers" complaining.
That is true. Top 10 lists for the week should be showing new names and new faces. Well that's what I believe.

10.12.2015 19:42:19
Ms. Crushinator
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Ms. Crushinator
10.12.2015 19:55:16
Ms. Crushinator
One thing I noticed is that spammier games get lots of attention because they're easy to join and they're always at the top. Less spammy games can fall to the second page easily, and that usually makes them vanish forever.

10.12.2015 19:55:16
HeavenLeighBimbo
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HeavenLeighBimbo
10.12.2015 20:39:43
HeavenLeighBimbo
There seems to be a good selection of games to chose from.  Even page two isn't as much of a collection of dust bunnies anymore ether.  I regularly go to page two to find the 3 word story game.  This is a challenging game, and fun too.  You don't need teams, and everyone has an equal chance of matching another player post for post.  Money is not involved unless someone really get creative with a story line and another players help with that story.  This is the problem of deciding where to draw the line.  When does it becomes a team sport ?  Never mind the subject matter.  A team can organize times to meet, and totally own a forum game for hours on end, with countless posts. Meaningful or nonsensical.  With the Top Ten being the only way to earn B$ besides a job, this really does create a very big moral problem with the fairness of the games for all to have the same opportunities earning reputation points.

 Of course it goes without saying,  there is no way to enforce any moral code of conduct.  Two players could always conspire a time to meet on the game anyways, and play pillow fight for hours on end already.  That morally feels wrong to me, and I wouldn't do that.  Yet I can see how the lure of B$ could cause someone to think of that way to play a game.
  The difference with the Pillow Fight game is that it's organizer keeps an individual score card for the players.  Thus it is explicitly a single player game involving any player wishing to join. It is in my judgement a very fair game.

10.12.2015 20:39:43
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Ms. Crushinator
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Ms. Crushinator
10.12.2015 20:51:50
Ms. Crushinator
I think there's a difference between two people cooperating to get their rep up and people having the same silly sig. The first might be a tiny problem, but getting rid of the second doesn't stop it. They aren't related.

10.12.2015 20:51:50
HeavenLeighBimbo
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HeavenLeighBimbo
10.12.2015 21:13:31
HeavenLeighBimbo
Your right Ms Crush.  The two are not related.  The signatures are cute and personalized.  A friendship sort of display.  I'm not questioning that.

Is Bimbolands ready to walk the path where players will have to apply for membership to teams?
Will there come a time, that players receive rejection letters when applying to play a game because they don't have a team-mate or once belonged to the wrong team?

Just thinking out loud.  I really haven't made up my mind on this, but feel it should be discussed.  What constitutes cheating in Bimbolands?
Yes, I have caught two chearters, and they have been subsequently perma banned.  They were easy to spot, and confirm as cheats. In those cases they were cheating for sex appeal points. Those didn't even matter yet, because it was before the prize money was offered but already someone found a way to cheat to get them anyways. 

  Cheating to earn Reputation points is a grey area that has never needed to be addressed before.  Players never cared about those points till now.  I feel it is best to address this issue from all perspectives.
If I wanted to think like a cheater for reputation points, the first thing I would do is find a team-mate and set up a game called the Sunday School Quote Club and begin copying the Bible 3 words at a time. (Just joking? to make a point.)  Wouldn't a segment of the population feel excluded from that game?  Yet, should this be stopped before it gets started for the greater good of all future players?

While I would love to play a game like that, for my own spiritual reasons and not reputation points.
 It still is my opinion that a game like that for reputation points would be wrong, because it does exclude a % of the whole of the Republic of Bimbolands in favor of an exclusive team game not everyone could feel welcome joining.
  I would ban that game as I'm sure everyone here would as well, even though it could be considered a team sport/game too.





10.12.2015 21:13:31
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Telaphone
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11.12.2015 01:57:41
Telaphone
Personally I like every reply to have a purpose, that's why I don't really participate in any of the "game" threads, I don't mind games that require actual replies but blatant spam threads like the one you mentioned bother me. Those users aren't contributing anything. In fact that one user went out to say they were just spamming to get the achievement and carried the spam to every other thread.

11.12.2015 01:57:41

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