Thats the liberal mindset
Trump
Its ok deedee were just guilty of wrongthink thats all. Lol. Btw im new to this debate think as well as this site as a whole. How do you qout someones post?
When i read your post...i always have to smile:) when bimbos say "facts are facts"...and then write to a graph
"Unemployment was going down durning the entirety of the Obama presidency."
sorry...this is like school for kids and bimbo logic!
the fact of this graph is only...that the unemployment went down since a peak in 2008! That is science!!!
that Obama had any effect on this...is scientifically NOT proven!
the main effect was the bank/house/credit crises in the USA and a bit later in many other countries between 2007 and 2009.
Obama started his job as president in 2009 (!)...after the peak of the crises!
besides this bank/house/credit crises we had of course many more different effects...
- for example cheap oil from Iraq (90% of their oil goes to US companies)
- general economic rebound in USA and worldwide
- a better position of power of the USA after the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and many other countries
- continous economic, military and political pressure on other countries and regions (which has a positiv effect on american/western markets)
- sanctions against other countries (to prevent that these countries can be part of global markets and the USA can sell their own products)
...and so i could go on...
hehe...ok....in some points Obama had really his hands in the game. for me this makes him a good leader who cares about his own people...but a bad person in an ethical way! but well....who said that people should be good:)
Pia Margrethe wrote:
"Unemployment was going down durning the entirety of the Obama presidency."
sorry...this is like school for kids and bimbo logic!
the fact of this graph is only...that the unemployment went down since a peak in 2008! That is science!!!
that Obama had any effect on this...is scientifically NOT proven!
the main effect was the bank/house/credit crises in the USA and a bit later in many other countries between 2007 and 2009.
Obama started his job as president in 2009 (!)...after the peak of the crises!
besides this bank/house/credit crises we had of course many more different effects...
- for example cheap oil from Iraq (90% of their oil goes to US companies)
- general economic rebound in USA and worldwide
- a better position of power of the USA after the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and many other countries
- continous economic, military and political pressure on other countries and regions (which has a positiv effect on american/western markets)
- sanctions against other countries (to prevent that these countries can be part of global markets and the USA can sell their own products)
...and so i could go on...
hehe...ok....in some points Obama had really his hands in the game. for me this makes him a good leader who cares about his own people...but a bad person in an ethical way! but well....who said that people should be good:)
Pia Margrethe wrote:
Unemployment was going down durning the entirety of the Obama presidency.
The stock market was already soaring when Trump took office. And it's been rather wobbly of late, don't you think?
Corporations returning to the US? I don't think so. What they have done is repatriate some of their money because of the massive high end and corporate tax cuts.
Enjoy your first rate affordable health care, sucker! But don't develop any 'women's problems'.
And enjoy your guns. He's backed off of his promise to prohibit sales to crazies and under-21s because of his inability to stand up to the NRA.
BTW... his statement: take the guns first, due process later is such an incredible display of ignorance that I did not, as I usually do when I read news from your benighted shores, snort derisively: I laughed out loud. Stupid Yanks!
But I do agree with Epica. You misread her statement.
Ad hominem? Facts is facts.
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but i'm not sure about the universe yet."
use this " sign.....right from the up and down thumb
Erika Femm wrote:
Erika Femm wrote:
Its ok deedee were just guilty of wrongthink thats all. Lol. Btw im new to this debate think as well as this site as a whole. How do you qout someones post?
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but i'm not sure about the universe yet."
I stopped caring about him months ago.
Cool, Calm, Collected
First off Do the Trumpers and the conservatives of America ever get tired of of spinning fox news narratives? which spins fake news daily at an alarming clip.Hillary did not steal anything from Haiti however much it comforts you to spin that fairytale. Snopes debunked that one already. getting beyond 2016 and dealing with 2018 is where my head is at. Trump came to my Home State today ground zero of the resistance and reminded Californians Just why we hate him so much the minute he opened his mouth To spew lies . No Californians do Not want his stupid WALL ,No we do not pay the highest taxes in the nation,No Governor Brown has not done a bad job leading us. No we are not over run with nothing but crime and illegal immigrants. We have tough gun control laws but those have been put in place by the voters. Taxes on the wealthy have also been put in place by the voters. in 2012 and 2016 we voted in those taxes . the result is when Brown leaves office in 1/2019 our budget will be balanced and we will have a 6.1 billion dollar surplus. California has the 6th largest economy in the world and is responsible for 12% of the US GDP. Brown remains popular in CA his latest polling Gives him a 57.1 % approval rating Higher than Trumps approval ever was . So to come to a state that hates him and disparage our State government certainly did not gain him any friends. California Is Bold and Progressive and has absolutely no desire to turn the clock back to 1818. We are aware most of the U.S.hates us . We are not losing any sleep over it.We would love for Trump to keep his promise and pull ICE which acts as a home grown terrorist GESTAPO for Trump out of California.
Life is too Short ,Live for today, tomorrow may never get here!
Actually you do have the highest tax rate.
California 13.3%
Oregon 9.9%
Minnesota 9.85%
Iowa 8.98%
New Jersey 8.97%
Vermont 8.95%
District of Columbia 8.95%
New York 8.82%
And i am sorry to say but i dont see california ever having a surplus. Perhaps if the state spent within it means and didnt rely on the rest of the country to subsidize them. Of course i cant talk much on that im in new york we do the same thing. But thats just NYC running the state. I dont have the time nore patiance to attack your points one by one. Perhaps your shouldnt get your information fromm CNN. Speaking of fake news.
You're right DeeDee. I don't know you. I only know your opinions. They are deranged.
La ruta nos aportó otro paso natural.
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
Last resort of liberals when they know there wrong and cannot form a valid agrument? Name calling. I could call the 12 people who still believe hillary is a descent person deranged. But really there just brainwashed.
From my experience of living in the US, I found that people of my political leanings are not considered liberal there.
At least, snowflake, we are minimally literate.
At least, snowflake, we are minimally literate.
La ruta nos aportó otro paso natural.
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
Forudsigelse er meget vanskelig, især hvis det handler om fremtiden
(Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future) - Niels Bohr
As regards your life: why make a tragedy of a one act play? - Dan O'Neil
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