Campaign for new outfit slots and categories 2020 

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03.04.2020
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TokiKonoe

Poll: Do we need more slots and categories?

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06.04.2020 11:12:36
Princess_of_Diamonds

Here I am! I completely agree, we need more outfit slots and also new categories, there are some of them i've never used! Such a great idea, already voted in the poll too ;)

06.04.2020 11:12:36
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06.04.2020 15:47:11
honorscollege

I'm looking at the poll and I feel like high fashion/avant-garde/runway/haute couture could all be consolidated into one category and that if we CAN get new outfit slots, at least one of them should be picked.

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06.04.2020 17:52:26
Pia Margrethe

I'm for, of course, more new slots, but not so much for new categories. I think it would be an improvement if we could supply our own categories, sort of with one or two (or 5) word explanations of what the style is we're trying to generate. For example: one could title your own bimbo - busker, or street performer, or passerby for street active scenes. Of course, one COULD say nothing at all and let your style speak for itself :-). There is no obligation to actually design our looks for the categories, but there is some pressure to participate in fights. Adding more categories increases that pressure and, I actually believe, will decrease the diversity of our outfits.

More slots, not more categories!

06.04.2020 17:52:26
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06.04.2020 18:20:48
TokiKonoe

honorscollege wrote:
I'm looking at the poll and I feel like high fashion/avant-garde/runway/haute couture could all be consolidated into one category and that if we CAN get new outfit slots, at least one of them should be picked.
You are right, I see a problem with those categories and I should have merged them as a one. But there are also sci-fi and futuristic which are having almost the same amount of votes but I'm not convinced if it makes any sense to have both of them. 
Maybe highfashion + avant-garde + haute couture's voices could be simply counted together and same would go Sci-Fi + futuristic? It's nonsense to have 2 or 3 very similar categories (remember when we had date and romantic in separate categories, it was just silly) 
At this point it seems that IF we got anything new and we merged those categories above, at this point we would get:
PBFC
Alternative, subculture
Sci-Fi + Futuristic (?)
Highway (haute couture, avant-garde, runway)
Wedding
History


06.04.2020 18:20:48
 
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06.04.2020 21:19:58
Pia Margrethe

TokiKonoe wrote:
honorscollege wrote:
I'm looking at the poll and I feel like high fashion/avant-garde/runway/haute couture could all be consolidated into one category and that if we CAN get new outfit slots, at least one of them should be picked.
You are right, I see a problem with those categories and I should have merged them as a one. But there are also sci-fi and futuristic which are having almost the same amount of votes but I'm not convinced if it makes any sense to have both of them. 
Maybe highfashion + avant-garde + haute couture's voices could be simply counted together and same would go Sci-Fi + futuristic? It's nonsense to have 2 or 3 very similar categories (remember when we had date and romantic in separate categories, it was just silly) 
At this point it seems that IF we got anything new and we merged those categories above, at this point we would get:
PBFC
Alternative, subculture
Sci-Fi + Futuristic (?)
Highway (haute couture, avant-garde, runway)
Wedding
History

Would retro be subsumed into history?

I am, perhaps, one of the few who believes date and romantic and wedding all to be distinct. Dating for me, is a social activity. Romantic should involve the elements. Think Wordsworth, or Byron or the Brontës. Or Mary Shelley. Think outdoor Gothic with a frisson of sexuality. As an anthropologist and anarcho-syndicalist, I recognize that marriage is about property rights and little more.

06.04.2020 21:19:58
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07.04.2020 01:57:02
Misaki Hariyama

I only have one concern, and that is the fact that I feel like having a category dedicated solely to weddings is very limiting. Realistically, a person can only come up with so many different wedding outfits before running out of options. If people feel strongly enough about having a category dedicated to weddings, I would suggest making the actual category less specific and naming it 'ceremony' or something along those lines. As an example, things such as funeral services or other things along those lines can be looked at as options if the category was less specific in addition to weddings. 

Aside from having personal creative limitations, I don't necessarily believe that the wedding outfits will be versatile enough to keep people interested in continuously creating new outfits for it. But either way, I will happily oblige with whatever majority of the players want :) 

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07.04.2020 05:38:08
LillyAnn

As someone who doesn't even have Date/Romantic outfit for a long time I didn't want to comment Wedding one. Not because the idea is bed but it's just out of my scope of interests.
The positive side of such category is it's very direct, there is no double-meaning what the outfit should be about. I guess that's the one of things that is appealing to many people. In fights, one bimbo in white gown compete with other bimbo in white gown. It's very straight forward unlike with some other categories such music for instance where you may have rock star and pop star in fight, or retro with Victorian outfit vs. pin-up outfit.
The negative side is exactly what Misaki wrote. It's true that many white elegant gowns can serve for wedding outfits but running out of option is probable problem. Another problem is that other categories tend to be very wide for interpretation and having only one very narrow for interpretation might be kinda off in whole system.
Wedding at the moment have a lot of votes. I am a bit surprised it has more votes than concert/festival for instance, but it's just me. The majority obviously voted for that category. Possible options are:
1. Keeping it as is if place high enough in the poll. It may serve as a test for seeing if narrow categories are sustainable enough (i.e. how many people use them, can you see them often in fights, are they popular on a long run, etc.)
2. Merging it with Celebration
3. Merging it with Ceremony or something similar as Misaki suggested.

High fashion and Haute couture  - while there is difference between these two in reality, in the game they come as very similar. Haute Couture is always high fashion by definition. There is no way in the game to express the difference, i.e. that haute couture is unique and hand-tailored for only one bimbo. Avant-garde may or may not overlap with haute couture but it's usually high fashion too. Again, it has its meaning and difference in real life, but how to depict it in the game? And another problem is do we really have such a lot avant-garde items to make the difference between it, high fashion, haute couture and runaway visible and noticeable? I think they can be merged in one category.

Sci-Fi and Futuristic - it makes sense to me merge them together under one SF,Futuristic category.

Another assumption that goes in favor of merging close category is that the one who voted for High Fashion for instance, probably gave their vote to at least one more other close category. Same assumption goes for Sci-Fi and Futuristic, and maybe for group Preppy, Elegant, Cocktail Party.


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07.04.2020 10:05:24
TokiKonoe

Thanks Misaki and LillyAnn for your insight! I couldn't agree with you more. And we definitely need to merge some of these winning categories so that we wouldn't end up with many similar categories.

I'm surprised about the popularity of wedding category as well because it is very limiting, I couldn't imagine myself dressing my bimbo endlessly in wedding gowns and the situation would be even worse to himbos! I like the idea of having it as ceremony and I hope that people who voted for wedding would like it too. Ceremony category would allow you to dress in wedding dress, or baby naming party look, funeral look..... 

When high fashion, haute couture and runway could be easily merged. I also think that those people voted for both of them or if they didn't, they wouldn't mind them being as one category because you can dress in haute couture under high fashion. I suggest the category would be named simply High fashion.

Preppy isn't very similar with elegant or cocktail party, it's more of a school girl -like style, but at this point it luckily doesn't matter because none of those categories are in lead. 

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07.04.2020 11:06:40
TokiKonoe

Travel 5% (27)
Alternative, subculture 6% (31)
Punk 2% (13)
Nature 3% (18)
Formal, celebrations, holidays 3% (18)
PBFC 8% (43)
Animals 2% (9)
History 5% (27)
Cute 5% (29)
Futuristic 5% (29)
Western 3% (17)
Hobbies 3% (17)
Preppy 2% (9)
Sci-Fi 6% (30)
Freestyle (wear what you like) 3% (19)
High Fashion 4% (23)
Avant-garde 2% (10)
Cocktail party 1% (8)
Bohemian 2% (11)
Runway 3% (17)
Evil twin, doppelganger 0% (2)
Magical, paranormal 4% (20)
At home 3% (17)
College, school 4% (23)
Concert, festival 3% (16)
Elegant 3% (15)
Haute couture 2% (13)
Wedding 6% (33) - Ceremony?

This would give us
PBFC
Sci-Fi, futuristic
Ceremony (wedding, funeral....)
High fashion
Cute
History or travel
Alternative subculture

07.04.2020 11:06:40
 
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07.04.2020 16:14:10
cyberbully

Could we potentially just have history/retro together and travel as a new one so that everyone gets what they wanted? I feel like that would make sense, since if we bring history and replace/combine retro with it, it technically wouldn't be a new category. 

Also, you forgot alternative/subculture!! 

07.04.2020 16:14:10

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