Unfortunately, Toki won't be PB forever, even tho a lot of players would like the idea :) Do you see where I'm going with this?
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Dye96 wrote:
Unfortunately, Toki won't be PB forever, even tho a lot of players would like the idea :) Do you see where I'm going with this?Yes I do. You like our PB - thats great because the majority voted for her. Please trust our community and please trust our democracy and have faith that the best person will always win again in future after Toki as well.
SweetasNuts wrote:
Dye96 wrote:Weird flex. We can have a new PB every term or the same one for several terms, but you'll still be the site owner. Not everyone is as invested as Toki, so maybe it would be good that the whole TB plays its role.Unfortunately, Toki won't be PB forever, even tho a lot of players would like the idea :) Do you see where I'm going with this?Yes I do. You like our PB - thats great because the majority voted for her. Please trust our community and please trust our democracy and have faith that the best person will always win again in future after Toki as well.
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SweetasNuts wrote:
please trust our democracyHow are people meant to trust "our" democracy when every single Prime Bimbo election & State Minister election for the majority of time a lot of users have been on the site has been in some way cheated? When the majority of the site's userbase currently can't vote on PBFC themes due to people cheating on the polls and the unofficial PBFC has completely different results to the official PBFC due to it's voting system being actually functional unlike the official PBFC? When Bimboland has an unelected figurehead President who does little to nothing about these issues?
Also, Chris, while I understand why you want to bring some investors, I study that and I could tell you that it's a more complicated subject. You can make it 16+, no one is against minors. We just want a proper environment of then and like I pointed before, to bring investors, you must have a product that could be accepted by the customers. While I understand what you're talking about, and you're right about expanding the brand, it also requires some changes. I could help you with that if you want, but keep in mind your current userbase as well. Only a small part of it is from UK.
Plus, it's extremely hard to deal with some repeat offenders. Recently, I required the permaban from a user that broke the site rules several times in the past years. Aside from the homophobic, transphobic, racist, and xenophobic statements, encouraging people to engage in risky behavior, harassing the voluntary staff, and moke about a mental health issue, that person keeps engaging in sexual roleplay and posting explicit sexual experiences over the forum. I reported it exactly the same way that I report all the inappropriate accounts, and while I don't wanna blame anyone for it because I don't know what happened, it takes almost 2 weeks until I got a response.
After that, Toki did her best to mediate the situation, but at that point, the damage was already done because this person ended up being elected as a State Minister. I can see that both you, Toki, and everyone else are trying to find a solution regards this subject and I'm aware of the changes regards the ban/jail dynamics, but the best answer for that kind of question is better communication between us and Team Bimbo. I'm sorry, but the 90 days in jail only work up to a certain point. If someone keeps pushing the rules, even after 90 days in jail, we should start expecting to be harassed in 3-to-3 months?
My point is: you want to make it 16+? Okay, let's go for it. Just make some small adjustments and gave us the support we need to make it friendly to minors.
Plus, it's extremely hard to deal with some repeat offenders. Recently, I required the permaban from a user that broke the site rules several times in the past years. Aside from the homophobic, transphobic, racist, and xenophobic statements, encouraging people to engage in risky behavior, harassing the voluntary staff, and moke about a mental health issue, that person keeps engaging in sexual roleplay and posting explicit sexual experiences over the forum. I reported it exactly the same way that I report all the inappropriate accounts, and while I don't wanna blame anyone for it because I don't know what happened, it takes almost 2 weeks until I got a response.
After that, Toki did her best to mediate the situation, but at that point, the damage was already done because this person ended up being elected as a State Minister. I can see that both you, Toki, and everyone else are trying to find a solution regards this subject and I'm aware of the changes regards the ban/jail dynamics, but the best answer for that kind of question is better communication between us and Team Bimbo. I'm sorry, but the 90 days in jail only work up to a certain point. If someone keeps pushing the rules, even after 90 days in jail, we should start expecting to be harassed in 3-to-3 months?
My point is: you want to make it 16+? Okay, let's go for it. Just make some small adjustments and gave us the support we need to make it friendly to minors.
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Yes, and no one can say for sure that next PB, whoever it will be, won't abuse 3-month jail option. We already had situations with bots and 'wrongly' elected people who luckily didn't enjoy PB position for very long. That same player who got fake votes in June elections turned out to be very toxic and spiteful, even she pretended being nice for more than 2 years and we all trusted her so she was forum guardian too. So yes, someone is able to trick people, someone is able to make bots who seem as regular players, it is possible to rig elections one way or another way, it is possible to get covert psycho in the position of power and so on. Oh, and what about democracy? It is not a democracy. Elections won with the help of bots are not democratic elections.
Though I agree with Chris that BL certainly isn't porn site and get his reasons for making it 16+, I am still afraid of minors. Not because they are demons and idiots but because today minors know to be overly sensitive and whiny. That's it. I don't want game ruined for me and other normal adult people because of whiny minors who are prone to complain over anything and everything, baiting people pretending they are adults and then use it to report them. It's not a democracy either.
As for 18+ shop category, that could be as well just called 16+. There is really no any so explicit content. That category wasn't named 18+ because it's indeed 18+ and should prevent minors from entering, but because it has a various content that goes under the same umbrella. It could have been called 'others' or 'sexy' as well.
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in a truly democratic environment we would be allowed to rally for "legal change" the majority of bl userbase deems necessary without the owner accusing us of discrimination and trying to silence us with false information and strange personal anecdotes.
the prime bimbo does not have the tools to make this site safe, you gave her a 90 day jail feature but why is she unable to permanently ban repeat offenders who should have no place in a site like this?
it is unfair of you to try to chuck the responsibility onto her shoulders when it is clear a lot of changes cannot be made unless you approve of them and when you will make changes without asking for her input. (case in point the age limit being changed without even an official announcement being made, toki stated in her reply to this thread on page 2 that no one even knows when exactly it was implemented.)
you say creeps get thrown in jail immediately yet we have dangerous people in positions of power right now. last state minister elections we lost several hours of voting time and nothing was done to fix the issue even though toki went above and beyond to get us a re-election. you can't just hide behind claims of democracy when it suits your arguments.
the prime bimbo does not have the tools to make this site safe, you gave her a 90 day jail feature but why is she unable to permanently ban repeat offenders who should have no place in a site like this?
it is unfair of you to try to chuck the responsibility onto her shoulders when it is clear a lot of changes cannot be made unless you approve of them and when you will make changes without asking for her input. (case in point the age limit being changed without even an official announcement being made, toki stated in her reply to this thread on page 2 that no one even knows when exactly it was implemented.)
you say creeps get thrown in jail immediately yet we have dangerous people in positions of power right now. last state minister elections we lost several hours of voting time and nothing was done to fix the issue even though toki went above and beyond to get us a re-election. you can't just hide behind claims of democracy when it suits your arguments.
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traggot wrote:
SweetasNuts wrote:This is simply not true. This totally disrespects our current PB as well as Bimboland as a whole. Our elections are legit and 100% democratic. I can vouch for that. We check the results and try and find signs for cheating. And there is none. So please accept the result and please respect our PB and our democracy.please trust our democracyHow are people meant to trust "our" democracy when every single Prime Bimbo election & State Minister election for the majority of time a lot of users have been on the site has been in some way cheated? When the majority of the site's userbase currently can't vote on PBFC themes due to people cheating on the polls and the unofficial PBFC has completely different results to the official PBFC due to it's voting system being actually functional unlike the official PBFC? When Bimboland has an unelected figurehead President who does little to nothing about these issues?
SweetasNuts wrote:
traggot wrote:If only this was about our current PB :) What do you think about the PBFC voting system?SweetasNuts wrote:This is simply not true. This totally disrespects our current PB as well as Bimboland as a whole. Our elections are legit and 100% democratic. I can vouch for that. We check the results and try and find signs for cheating. And there is none. So please accept the result and please respect our PB and our democracy.please trust our democracyHow are people meant to trust "our" democracy when every single Prime Bimbo election & State Minister election for the majority of time a lot of users have been on the site has been in some way cheated? When the majority of the site's userbase currently can't vote on PBFC themes due to people cheating on the polls and the unofficial PBFC has completely different results to the official PBFC due to it's voting system being actually functional unlike the official PBFC? When Bimboland has an unelected figurehead President who does little to nothing about these issues?
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