I think you're right. If there was an election scandal about to happen then that would have sucked, so maybe it is a good thing that some bans are happening. Plus I guess that nobody is seeing my argument so probably nothing is going to happen. However just as an aside, I'm not gonna let this go and I really think bimbo court should be handled much differently from now on.
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Muffy Mynxxx wrote:
Yes! Genuinely that sounds great, at least that would be a fair trial. I'm not saying that they have evidence in their favor, I'm just saying the fact that they can't defend themselves also breaks the rules.
They broke the rules already. The trial is there only to ask if they deserve a second chance if came back or not. With current accounts they have already broken many rules. Some of them, like Muto or Dong, have already gotten a second chance and blew it.
I get where are you coming from. We don't want to expose them fully because of ethic reasons. But there is more to this issue. If you think this is unfair, that's ok, everyone has a right for own opinion. But you were not the one who received reports every single day and have had to deal with them and their drama making.
The court is here to ask if some of them deserve a second chance (except those who have already had a second a chance) not to discuss if they are guilty right now because they clearly are. Warnings and mild punishments obviously didn't bring some reason to the Cowboy gang, they just didn't want to cooperate and left us without a choice. It was their choice however, so they should be able to deal with it. Everyone is accountable for own choices. No one is forced to do anything, but breaking the rules multiple times is breaking the rules. I am sorry but I am not sorry if you are blaming us for doing our job and want to keep the game clean of cheaters. I can only refer you to the first post to read it again. No one is willing to just ban someone just because. But if that someone left you without a choice there is no much that you can do.
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Thank you for bringing up that point Mariolka, I didn't consider #9 until now. I do think though that if the law does change that it needs to have a thorough discussion as adults without any drama. Or as much as we can stand it lol.
And LillyAnn, I'm with you. Truly, I can't argue against them or for them since I don't know every angle. I think a lot of people might think that I'm defending the gang, but I want to make it clear that I'm not: I'm just pointing out that this trial isn't fair.
And LillyAnn, I'm with you. Truly, I can't argue against them or for them since I don't know every angle. I think a lot of people might think that I'm defending the gang, but I want to make it clear that I'm not: I'm just pointing out that this trial isn't fair.
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Not guilty=new account/second chance
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I would also like to know more information on accusations 3,4, and 9
Some pic links were broken, I just fixed the links. Guess you can find more info now in the first post.
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Muffy Mynxxx, i see your point and think it is fair. Your main concern is for the process and you would like to see that the accepted process is followed. It is clear to me that you are not supporting the defendants as some here seem to think. Others should take care not to respond personally to what Muffy is saying, it is OK to disagree with her comments and anyone else’s, but i think Muffy’s comments are warranted.
I would normally agree with you Muffy and like to see that due process is followed but in this case I am happy to accept the ruling of those charged with making such decisions. I have trust in them to do so. I am not familiar with what has been going on or intimate with details but like most people know that someone has been agitating in the background for sometime now and i have been suspicious of several players, and so these charges i guess are not so surprising to me. BL is a game and is not truly democratic but it does have rules and processes so we should take them seriously but they are there for one main reason - to protect the wellbeing of the community and its individuals. So our primary concern should be the welfare of the community and its individuals and maybe we should not get too hung up on the process in this case if we are happy that there is overwhelming evidence of serious wrongdoing and threat of repeat future offence. We should also keep in mind that cases like this (including the associated incidents that lead up to them) consume so much human resource in terms of managing them and of people who are for the large part volunteers (players). And although I personally think it would be interesting to hear what (if anything) the defendants might have to say if given the chance to respond i expect it would all be BS and needlessly consume more of peoples time which (all things considered) makes me think wonder whether following process and dragging this case out further would achieve anything positive.
I would normally agree with you Muffy and like to see that due process is followed but in this case I am happy to accept the ruling of those charged with making such decisions. I have trust in them to do so. I am not familiar with what has been going on or intimate with details but like most people know that someone has been agitating in the background for sometime now and i have been suspicious of several players, and so these charges i guess are not so surprising to me. BL is a game and is not truly democratic but it does have rules and processes so we should take them seriously but they are there for one main reason - to protect the wellbeing of the community and its individuals. So our primary concern should be the welfare of the community and its individuals and maybe we should not get too hung up on the process in this case if we are happy that there is overwhelming evidence of serious wrongdoing and threat of repeat future offence. We should also keep in mind that cases like this (including the associated incidents that lead up to them) consume so much human resource in terms of managing them and of people who are for the large part volunteers (players). And although I personally think it would be interesting to hear what (if anything) the defendants might have to say if given the chance to respond i expect it would all be BS and needlessly consume more of peoples time which (all things considered) makes me think wonder whether following process and dragging this case out further would achieve anything positive.
Hello everyone,
I'd like to point some things:
1. This doesn't have to turn into a fight or into a 'I'm right/ no, I'm right' thing. Everyone is free to have an opinion, whether it's pro or against the gang. As long as it's civil, it's fine.
2. Muffy is right - normally, we should have started the case and then they had to be banned, not the other way around. However, this situation is not ordinary and they broke so many rules that we couldn't let them keep playing and eventually win the PB election by cheating. The case's question is if they deserve a second chance or not. We already gave some of them the benefit of doubt and we were the stupid ones, apparently.
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I'd like to point some things:
1. This doesn't have to turn into a fight or into a 'I'm right/ no, I'm right' thing. Everyone is free to have an opinion, whether it's pro or against the gang. As long as it's civil, it's fine.
2. Muffy is right - normally, we should have started the case and then they had to be banned, not the other way around. However, this situation is not ordinary and they broke so many rules that we couldn't let them keep playing and eventually win the PB election by cheating. The case's question is if they deserve a second chance or not. We already gave some of them the benefit of doubt and we were the stupid ones, apparently.
Check the usernames :D
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Oh man, what did I woke up to...
I don't even know where to start honestly. I'm kinda shocked some of these people are this mean.
Can't say I interacted with all of them, but some of them been nice to me and decent, and now reading all these screenshots its disgusting.
Very immature, but since I started playing again I saw that there are multiple people with alt accounts used for hate, a lot of dislikes on fashion contests, for what I couldn't understand until now.
Sadly, I think banning was the only thing to do. Those screenshots prove how mean they are and how they abuse the system, and I personally don't think we should indulge "gang" behavior in any case.
I'm not sure still that all of them deserve to be banned honestly, but I don't know the case that well to speak about it in depth.
Also as an edit:
I suggest remembering the IPs that you've banned and be with an eye open for new accounts on those IPs and keep banning them, they will clearly returning with lots of new accounts.
I don't even know where to start honestly. I'm kinda shocked some of these people are this mean.
Can't say I interacted with all of them, but some of them been nice to me and decent, and now reading all these screenshots its disgusting.
Very immature, but since I started playing again I saw that there are multiple people with alt accounts used for hate, a lot of dislikes on fashion contests, for what I couldn't understand until now.
Sadly, I think banning was the only thing to do. Those screenshots prove how mean they are and how they abuse the system, and I personally don't think we should indulge "gang" behavior in any case.
I'm not sure still that all of them deserve to be banned honestly, but I don't know the case that well to speak about it in depth.
Also as an edit:
I suggest remembering the IPs that you've banned and be with an eye open for new accounts on those IPs and keep banning them, they will clearly returning with lots of new accounts.
I find it fascinating how low can some people go in a game that is supposed to be fun, relaxing and overall community based. I am also shocked to see some names there which were kind of an inspiration for me since I play for less than a month and I was adoring their profile and overall their way of expressing themselves.
Congrats to the detectives and bringing light in this matter. As I was saying I play for less than a month and I got pulled into this really hard and fast, yet even for a newbie like me the alt accounts issue seemed like a real one. On top of that, harassing and overall talking sh*t about other people is downright cringe and sad (not to mention the cheating part).
As a conclusion to this... I don't think they should get a second chance. Even some of the names that don't appear in the "proof" screenshots I don't consider they deserve a second chance as they are accomplices and supporters of this pathetic behavior by simply not reporting or just allowing these disgusting acts to impact other people's experience. I don't want this here.
Congrats to the detectives and bringing light in this matter. As I was saying I play for less than a month and I got pulled into this really hard and fast, yet even for a newbie like me the alt accounts issue seemed like a real one. On top of that, harassing and overall talking sh*t about other people is downright cringe and sad (not to mention the cheating part).
As a conclusion to this... I don't think they should get a second chance. Even some of the names that don't appear in the "proof" screenshots I don't consider they deserve a second chance as they are accomplices and supporters of this pathetic behavior by simply not reporting or just allowing these disgusting acts to impact other people's experience. I don't want this here.
Muffy Mynxxx wrote:
" Why are we having a court case then? Because they will create alt accounts. We think everyone deserves a second chance (except the ones who already got their second chance: melodysungjae and horseplinko), and we’ll vote whether they can keep their new accounts or not."
For me it was clear that there will be no defense, as the quilt was already stated and supported by some proof. It's not about a trial, but about giving some people another chance. Only you didn't get it, so I thought it would be good to emphasize that.
No no, to be clear I'm not advocating for this because they were nice to me. I didn't really interact much with them at all. I would actually hate for my money to go to someone who cheated; even if they did present evidence its very likely I would still vote for them to stay banned because its clear they cheated and also I don't think it would do any good for them to be reinstated when they will just make alts anyway.I think you just haven't read Dye's post very carefully. Let me quote it for you:
However what I will say is that I'm not sure if I want the money I paid to BL to be used to support an unfair government. Tbh, I didn't expect that my first statement about their defense was going to meet much resistance at all and the fact that it's gotten so much resistance is actually kind of suspicious, ngl. But clearly its not going to happen so I'll just stop, but I won't be voting and I probably will close my senatorship.
" Why are we having a court case then? Because they will create alt accounts. We think everyone deserves a second chance (except the ones who already got their second chance: melodysungjae and horseplinko), and we’ll vote whether they can keep their new accounts or not."
For me it was clear that there will be no defense, as the quilt was already stated and supported by some proof. It's not about a trial, but about giving some people another chance. Only you didn't get it, so I thought it would be good to emphasize that.
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