What is the governments position on the Middle east/Israel/Gaza conflict?

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23.11.2024 13:27:11
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anyway the US funded the taliban & also killed hundreds of thousands of iraqi civilians. im not even gonna get into all the coups & insurgent groups we've supported over the past decades for our own economic interests. to say we're patently "against terrorism" is a joke.
we'll look at blatant acts of terrorism & twist ourselves into pretzels making up excuses for why its actually self defense. then label literally anything done by a muslim as terrorism regardless of the surrounding context.

we're one of the ONLY countries in the entire world who sees israel do increasingly cartoonishly evil acts of violence every day & still refuses to admit that this is wrong (but surely its the entire rest of the world thats wrong, right?)

anyone who still thinks the US is a moral leader or stands for 'freedom & democracy' is living in a fantasy world. anyone outside the US knows this.

tbh i understand why americans think these things - we're some of the most heavily propagandized people on earth, & a lot of us dont have the courage to look at the facts & shed these ideas we were indoctrinated with. its so much more comfortable to just yell about freedom, refuse to see arabs as equal human beings, & believe whatever the state department tells us lmao.

you wouldnt think itd take a lot of moral fortutude to look at bombed children & think "hey maybe this isnt good". but the bar is low. people here will make up any justification that allows them to avoid the cognitive dissonance that comes w realizing maybe we're the bad guys. once someone is committed to this, you cant really logic w them

they'll say those kids deserve to die bc their parents maybe voted for hamas 20 years ago. they'll say rounding up wounded civilians from hospitals & sending them to torture camps or mass graves is good actually, or that its not happening, or that they deserve it. theyll say w a straight face that one israeli life is worth more than 100 arab lives. they'll hear you say "i dont like seeing children killed w our tax dollars" & immediately accuse you of "supporting terrorism". they'll ignore all the images of israeli tanks w civilians tied to the hood, & the fact that theres a major military base in the middle of tel aviv, & then say hamas is using human shields. they'll say its all self defense & that israel cares about civilians - while ignoring all the *actual israeli politicans & leaders* explicitly saying that they want to kill & displace all the civilians so they can expand israels territory. theyre even saying it in english now, guys! like come on. at this point its just willful ignorance.

i wont be responding bc theres literally no convincing these people. theyve made up their minds & shown their souls. but shoutout to anyone w an actual conscience who hasnt lost their gag relax deepthroating hasbara

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23.11.2024 19:36:58
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You guys should start wearing your Nazi swastikas, I mean you seem to be fine with Palestine's genocidal war against Jews and all. Deserving to die is just your emotions talking, death does not discriminate. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes. Let me repost how Palestine is sooo sweet and not violent at all!! 

Fun fact, Palestine was in bed with Hitler. Talk about an actual real genocide! strolling at a concentration camp must have been like being at Disney World huh? All the Jews dying and Amin al-Husaini was smiling! Isn't that just neat?
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23.11.2024 21:36:44
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exactly as i described....i say "children being bombed is bad", they say "oh so you love the nazis??". thank you for proving my point

anyway the US actively supported the taliban & proto-al-qaeda groups for years, so by your logic that means america is literally ISIS! hamas didnt support or fund the nazis, they met briefly bc they shared a common enemy in the british (the ppl dividing up & giving away palestinian lands). but nothing came of it & the relationship did not continue - unlike the US' support of hateful extremist groups which have far-reaching effects to this day

yahya sinwar amended the hamas charter in 2017 to specify that hamas' opposition is to the state of israel, NOT to jews in general. they are very clear about that. only one side of this 'conflict' boasts openly about wanting to wipe out entire cities & bloodlines. & its not the side you've been told. (i'm serious - go to any settler or IOF soldier's twitter/telegram page & hit 'translate'. the shit they say reads like a lost page of mein kampf)

cry all you want....but an occupying power directly supported by the richest nation / largest military in the world, who completely controls the borders, air space, & water supply of the territory theyre bombing, isnt the perpetual victim. i thought you were against using identity politics to play victim? hamas doesnt hate israel bc its jewish - they hate israel for its actions as an occupying power.

i know nothing i say will make you question anything, ofc you'll just double down & continue to believe what youve already decided to believe. ive never seen you change your views & i dont expect you to start now. but to anyone else reading - youre not crazy, antisemetic, or a 'terrorist supporter' for not wanting more civilians to die.

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24.11.2024 01:44:40
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 Your issue is with America now. So, you think Palestine hasn’t done anything wrong and is just a victim of the "naughty Jews and Brits." You find it awful that kids are being bombed, and it seems like you're trying to pull on my heartstrings about protecting children to justify Palestine’s attacks on Israel. Remember, when you play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. Let’s not forget that Palestine was supportive while Jews were being killed, and yes, there were kids, women, the elderly, and disabled involved in that too. The hatred towards Jews isn’t a secret; I’m surprised you’re not aware of that in all your white-knighting.

It's funny how you claim Israel controls everything, yet the "poor victim" Palestine decides to attack the powerful. What did they think would happen? That Israel would just sit back and say, "Sure, go ahead, kill our people, you sweet victims"?

You also ignore the fact that Israel has been helping Palestine, and yet they've used that support to launch attacks against Israel. You really shouldn’t bite the hand that feeds you. And can you explain why their Muslim neighbors don’t want them either? It’s not Israel's job to take care of everything; why should Israel have to play the role of mommy? Israel is a nation that needs to look after its own people, while Palestine is a territory with a lot of problematic individuals. They seem to bring issues wherever they go, which is why neighboring countries don’t want to take them in.

Hamas has a singular goal: to wipe out all the Jews in Israel. They want Palestine to extend from the Jordan River to the sea, turning it into a Muslim state—a one-state solution. It’s not about identity politics.

I'm all for questioning everything! My views could change with new information. I don’t like the idea of innocent people dying either; who does? But I wholeheartedly believe in defending my country, even if it means death. When America faces a crisis, I expect us to act decisively, no apologies! The idea of self-preservation seems to be a struggle for Palestinians. Please answer my question because from everything I've research that is the answer but I'm always open to new info. :)

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24.11.2024 02:33:31
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girl when have you ever been open to changing your views....all you do is double down

israel had been displacing people & forcibly taking palestinian lands for decades. they hold civilians in prisons indefinitely on no charges, have the IOF protect settlers looting palestinian towns (often killing ppl in the process), bomb hospitals & ambulances on purpose, have murdered more journalists in the past year than in all wars of the past century combined, & dropped more firepower on a 25-mile-long strip of land than the US dropped on hiroshima & nagasaki. when palestinians protest peacefully as in the 'march of return', they are purposely shot in the kneecaps &/or disappeared. israel has committed countless war crimes & acts of terrorism.

& go figure, doing all this for decades has consequences! like the rise of an armed resistance wing in hamas (which israel itself funded in the 80s as an alternative to the PLO....but surely youre gonna ignore that too). and even still - none of these horrible things would justify hamas killing thousands of children or razing entire cities like israel has done.

the rest of the world can see israel is in the wrong - yet still youre convinced that your view is the only right one, & the entire rest of the world is misled (by what? the nonexistent propaganda wing of hamas? its not like the israeli govt pours millions of $$ into foreign propaganda targeted at americans just like you....oh wait)

to begin to see past the propaganda, you'd have to be open to the idea that maybe our country isnt 100% the hero in every situation. but you refuse to even consider that possibility & will only make excuses ("palestine has some problematic individuals" therefore its cool to bomb hospitals? do you hear yourself?). so frankly this is a waste of time. i am responding for the sake of other people reading this thread - i dont really have an interest in engaging you, as ive tried before & already know how futile it is. 

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24.11.2024 03:14:52
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So just because I don't nod my head in agreement with you, that means I'm not open to different viewpoints? My arguments stand, so I'm not changing my stance. That's just how it goes. Honestly, I hope you're not American, because you're literally praising Hamas, the terrorists. If you are one of my people,  I’d say you are a person of interest. Supporting terrorists is a threat to our freedoms. I don’t have sympathy for terrorists.

 

It's pretty wild that you think I'm the one who's brainwashed by propaganda. Unlike many people here, I’ve actually studied how propaganda works and know how to dissect articles and news pieces to figure out what they’re trying to sell me. Then I do my research to see if there’s any truth to what’s being said.

 

I’ve never claimed Israel is a hero. I believe they should defend themselves from the terrorists you seem to support. This isn't a comic book—heroes and absolute goodness are just theoretical. If Hamas wasn't using schools and hospitals, Israel wouldn't have to target those buildings. Those guys hide their weapons and soldiers in those places to play psychological games. Then they be like: Seriously, can you all see what Israel is doing to us? We’re just here keeping our kidnapped people in these buildings while stockpiling weapons and using tunnels to take down the Jews, and Israel won’t let us! What savages! Why can't we just rape, decapitate, and slaughter all Israelis in peace?

Get real with this nonsense.

 

For anyone else reading this… really?  ah, yes, you are one of those people that thinks you are enlightening with your every word. Here sheeple, I tell the truth and hold the real just truth! So, you can skip doing any research, just echo my words, and hit the like button!

 

Lol I post because I can and I want to.

 

 It's pointless to argue with me because I don't rely on only feelings when discussing these topics. If feelings were the answer to everything, holy crap we’d be in trouble.



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24.11.2024 04:16:34
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Looks like Israel is handling things.  
Oct 7 was the Palestinian’s Bridge Too Far.

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24.11.2024 07:53:36
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way to not address a single actual thing i said....once again, i say "hey israel did some really fucked up shit here are some examples" & you immediately go "oh so youre a terrorist? you hate jews?? [repeat state department line of something something protcting our freedom]".
i never even claimed that hamas is pure or innocent. thats pure assumption on your part, bc you apparently think that any criticism of a state means i must 100% support their enemy.

....but you think im the one with arguments based solely on emotion. okay lol. your own logic isnt even consistent:

hamas has operations in dense population centers. israel also has military bases in dense population centers. does that mean it would be okay for hamas to flatten tel aviv? i dont think either side would be justified in destroying entire cities. but only one side is destroying entire cities.

hamas kidnapped israeli civilians & holds them in dire conditions. israel also kidnapped palestinian civilians & holds them in dire conditions. does that mean hamas has the right to storm israel & kill unlimited numbers of civilians to rescue those prisoners? i dont think either side has the right to do that. but only one side has killed 50000+ civilians & more every day

if israel has the right to defend itself from a much weaker power - doesnt palestine also have the right to defend itself against an occupying force? by international law, they do have this right

i do my due diligence in research from a wide variety of sources. importantly, i know no one is immune to propaganda & i always keep a critical eye. i used to support israel, but changed my views based on historical context combined w their well-documented actions.

meanwhile you rely on strawman arguments, many of which are literally word-for-word hasbara talking points. instead of saying anything meaningful, you accuse me of being a terrorist & resort to personal attacks. take a breath & look in the mirror. i am not the one arguing based on feelings. (tho if "not wanting a bunch of children blown up" is a silly ole feeling, then im glad to know i still have a soul!)

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24.11.2024 10:03:57
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I'm not ignoring what you say, I read it and think about it then I write what hops into my noodle. You’re really needy, you know that?

 

To start, people are accusing Israel of committing genocide in this war. That’s the claim being thrown around. According to the United Nations' definition, Israel doesn’t meet the criteria for genocide, but Palestine does. If you’ve been following my posts, you’d have seen this already.

 

I’ve been looking into the history from both sides, and it seems clear that Jews have always been present in the land.  So there goes the argument that it isn’t their land. Honestly, the argument about who was first is retarded. There, I said it. Every country has taken land from someone and has blood on their hands. We need to move past that people!

 

And just to clarify, I’ve never said that Palestine doesn’t have the right to defend itself. It’s the pro-Hamas/Palestine folks insisting that since Israel is stronger, they should just overlook everything. If Israel truly wanted Palestine to cease to exist, it could have made that happen already. The truth is, Israel has the power to destroy Palestine but chooses not to, while it seems Palestine wants to eliminate Israel but can’t. Israel even proposed a two-state solution, which Palestine rejected. It’s simple: when one side refuses to compromise, I see them as being in the wrong.

 

You haven’t offered anything I haven’t heard before. I’m not sure why you’re patting yourself on the back like your arguments aren’t just mainstream propaganda. Don’t stroke yourself too hard there mate.

 

So, if you’re not a terrorist sympathizer, what’s your solution to this conflict? I want to know exactly what you think Israel should do, because all I hear from the Pro gang is that they wish Israel would just roll over and let itself be destroyed because it "deserves" it. I mean we both want the war to end. I just want my Jews to be okay and for Israel to keep existing. 

 

I find it a bit strange that when I speak my mind plainly, it’s seen as offensive. If you sympathize with terrorists, that raises some concerns. That’s not just a feeling, it is something that we are seeing a rise in and it isn’t good. Also, please stop with the whole “children blown up” angle. Wars kill people regardless of age or gender. Oh I know, I know, you’re all righteous and benevolent and like you got a golden shining soul! Unlike me, I eat babies.



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