Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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04.12.2023 16:02:42
Gemima1984

Could you please provide evidence of that happening? It would probably help if you should show us what has been deleted that falls into that category.

04.12.2023 16:02:42
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04.12.2023 16:06:21
Miss Bimbo

KirstyD8 wrote:
1. Why don't you make PB elections open to all senators again like it used to be instead of just SMs?
I think this looks like a good solution. Does anyone have any reasons that this is a bad idea?

2. New rules right? Why don't you post the new rules of the site so we can see them. Shouldn't the current FP put them into effect?
We are in the middle of Blecky term. Any rule changes are up the current government and not for us to wade in. My suggestions are merely what I will do when I am in power
3. Which banned players are you supposed to be bringing back?
I never ever agreed with vanning HLB
That was a huge mistake in my opinion and I would bring her back in a heartbeat. Yes she was unique and yes she said some rude, ill judged and inflammatory things but a free society tolerates those things and ideas and debates then - it does not banish them. She never threatened violence or legitimately posed a danger to anyone and so its is shameful that we banned her in my opinion. 
4. "I have received emails and messages from Ximbos airing their dissatisfaction with not being allowed to voice their opinions for fear of being banned" This is bullshit people don't just get banned for this.
Also Fashion Police let people speak out and have opinions and beliefs. As long as they are not insulting, atttacking others, etc forums post won't get edited or deleted in these cases. Its just not how it works.
As long as not insulting? The freedom to insult others is an important freedom to defend.  
6. PB and SMs have to pay for senatorship and on top of that have to pay for prizes for when they host contest so when you add it all up it's not that cheap in the long run.
Yes it is. All adults on thsi site can afford the £20 or so its costs to be PB 
7. People don't wont to run against the present and past few PBs because they have done such a great job in the role. Plus on top of that we can see how much work they have to put into it. Its not a simple log in and log out.
Thats a cop out. Are they perfect? No of course not - so lets challenge them to do better


04.12.2023 16:06:21

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04.12.2023 16:10:26
Miss Bimbo

l wrote:
So Chris, you say the PH has been silencing and banning people from speaking their voice? Which is not really true, we still got a few, 2 of them to be more specific, who ruin the game and bully people on sight, but we can't get rid of them. No one has freedom of speech around them.
Why is that? Since you say PB banns people that easily. 

Not following you here. Who doesnt have freedom of speech?

04.12.2023 16:10:26

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04.12.2023 16:13:13
Miss Bimbo

Gemima1984 wrote:
Could you please provide evidence of that happening? It would probably help if you should show us what has been deleted that falls into that category.
Take a look around yourself and show me any threads criticising the current government and/or telling them how they should do better?
Then take a look around and show me anyone challenging current Ximboland orthodoxies on the above subjects? You will see they are soon closed down or cancelled/banned. 

04.12.2023 16:13:13

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04.12.2023 16:15:34
Gemima1984

Do you have screenshots of these alleged deleted posts dude? Just because they're not there doesn't mean they've been deleted. It could just be that we want to play our dress up game in peace and your input isn't needed :)

04.12.2023 16:15:34
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04.12.2023 16:16:38
ediblegoats

so much respect to you gemima fr, you have so much patience

04.12.2023 16:16:38
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04.12.2023 16:19:12
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Miss Bimbo wrote:
l wrote:
So Chris, you say the PH has been silencing and banning people from speaking their voice? Which is not really true, we still got a few, 2 of them to be more specific, who ruin the game and bully people on sight, but we can't get rid of them. No one has freedom of speech around them.
Why is that? Since you say PB banns people that easily. 

Not following you here. Who doesnt have freedom of speech?
Doesn't seem like you follow anyone here. 

04.12.2023 16:19:12

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04.12.2023 16:23:11
Blecky89

Sorry but that's def not what would happen. I'm always open for suggestions from others and also criticism. 
If someone thinks I or FP that is under my care are mistreating them, closing their mouths or in any other way not letting them express pls come forward. 
I haven't banned anyone in my term that wasn't an alt or a minor. Even when banning alts I make sure we message the player giving them chance to emigrate the acounts they don't want or let us know what account they want to keep. 

As for the political ideologies it's not a secret to anyone that I'm standing in middle or leaning more to the right side but that don't mean I can't be polite and respect other peoples point of views. 
You can have free speach that is respectfull and constructive and that has been my aim during my first term and also this one. 

04.12.2023 16:23:11
    
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04.12.2023 16:32:31
Miss Bimbo

Let me be clear here on actions I think we can take to make Ximboland better as opposed to me just criticizing where we are at 

1) Dont ban people unless they present a clearly a physical real life danger. 
2) Dont over moderate and dont close threads - let them roll and let argument take its course. If someone's feelings are hurt - well thats part of life. We are adults here and not children after all. 
3) Encourage others to debate subjects of all manner even if there are opinions that you disagree with from across the political divide

Then what should PB/government do to help democracy?

1) Encourage opposition .  Encourage people to stand against them and to allow debate and dialogue about their good and bad faults. 
 
2) Be proud of the job.
Be proud of what we have achieved. We are a 15 year old fledgling democracy that has come along way from the original miss bimbo of 2006. But we still have a long way to go and much more to do but in the meantime be proud of being brave enough to stand and be proud of you getting voted in. These threads highlight how many excuses people make to avoid responsibility so well  done for taking responsibility on your shoulders and not making excuses. 

3) be proud of Ximboland. 
is there anywhere on the internet as interesting as us? I would say there is twitter/x but thats about it. And they don't have a democracy - they simply have a right leaning Elon dictatorship. Our site can be a better more democratic version of twitter/x . Whats interesting about our site is that the president is right leaning and the Prime Bimbos are generally left leaning. So this creates a good balance right? Something we should exploit and be proud of.  





04.12.2023 16:32:31

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04.12.2023 16:35:19
ButterfIy

HLB should be brought back, the banning and panning of HLB is the worst case of martyrdom since Jesus Christ. Does anyone have any way to reach her?

04.12.2023 16:35:19
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