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my opinion on transitioning
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أتمنى تعذيب أي من رجال الشرطة الملحدين في غوانتانامو الذين سجنوا حمزة لأنه أصبح مسلماً مرة أخرى
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Iowa wrote:
transitioning during adolescence reduces depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, and behavioral problems, and improves mood, self image, and social functioning, not just in the interim, but for life.As an actual medical student who has to extensively study medical ethics by design and has a background in scientific research with papers published in scientific journals, this is the funniest thing I’ve read in my life.gender dysphoria that presents during childhood persists for over 95% of children.less than 1% of minors who medically transition change their minds.legally minors can consent to medical procedures their guardians and doctors also consent to, including treatments that permanently alter their body, or affect fertility. the exact same drugs used for transitioning are routinely prescribed to cisgender minors for a variety of reasons.gender affirming care has as much or better evidence than ~80% of pediatric medicine.but it's child abuse because it makes complete strangers feel icky
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since jesus was the result of immaculate conception he had xx chromosomes. take it up with the bible not us
also youre free to elaborate if you have an actual point which i suspect you dont. gender affirming care bans have been overturned in 2 republican states so far because of the reasons i listed. trump-appointed judges found that the state did not meet the burden of proof for banning this care preventing more harm than it causes.
also youre free to elaborate if you have an actual point which i suspect you dont. gender affirming care bans have been overturned in 2 republican states so far because of the reasons i listed. trump-appointed judges found that the state did not meet the burden of proof for banning this care preventing more harm than it causes.
He would have a single X genotype if that were the case, how retarded can you be?
Well firstly we can start by saying that a child lacks the forethought to give informed consent. Your argument that the doctor and parents of the children consenting on behalf of the child is somehow justifiable is hilarious, but it would explain why you are still mentally ill despite your transition. The doctor’s “consent” is irrelevant, firstly. Their job is to provide sufficient knowledge to the patient and their guardians to make an informed decision wherein the benefits, risks, alternative treatment options and prognosis are discussed. If the child is underage, their parents may make a clinical decision regarding the procedure based on their own research and what the doctor has told them. However, this is where the obvious tranny fallacy falls short. A 13 year old is unlikely to understand the significance of the changes made to their body and their wants and desires at 13 are likely to not align with their desires at 30. If the child says they want to use Lupron and HRT regardless of the known adverse effects later in life, do we assume they have given their consent? Obviously not, since the average teenager is extremely unlikely to comprehend the significance of their decision at a young age. So sure, we rule out the child as a direct source of consent. Do we then just assume the child’s parents are prophets who can read the stars and shit out the future onto a canvas? Again, no. Who are the patient’s parents to make a decision of this magnitude when the margin for error is this enormous? A stupid parent assumes a 13 year old has racked up the knowledge to consent, and a stupider parent agrees to make permanent changes to a child’s body instead of waiting for said child to be old enough to decide themselves. I’m sorry that you were born into a retarded family, I really am, and I’m even more sorry that the doctor who shoved puberty blockers and testosterone down your cunt in the hopes of sprouting a cock was allowed to practice medicine on a child without their license being revoked.
Puberty blockers are also another lovely talking point for trannies which we all love laughing at you for. Using GnRH analogues is not as reversible as you morons like to think, and are currently being extensively studied to observe their longitudinal effects. Some research suggests that they lead to reduced cognition and bone density loss (when not supplemented with androgen replacement). The scant evidence for their benefit vs. risk was evidently concerning enough that the NHS no longer prescribes them and only offers them in clinical research trials. The NHS also had a major scandal at one of its GIDS and was slapped with lawsuits to the extent where it shut the clinic down and reworded its entire website. But sure, 2 states cracked under pressure and allowed themselves to remain complicit in the abuse of children, yippee! Be a guinea pig since you look like one, but don’t expect the rest of us to pull the wool over our eyes while you manipulate and abuse young, impressionable individuals into becoming science experiments like yourself.
Also screaming at “95% of gender dysphoric children remain dysphoric into adulthood”. Literally the opposite, dumbo. If you need to lie to make arguments for yourself, you should probably re-evaluate the strength of your argument. It really is a wonder why only 1% of people are unhappy with their transitions, honestly. It’s almost as if they’re burned at the stake for saying anything against you gaggle of mentally ill misfits. Could be that, no?
Well firstly we can start by saying that a child lacks the forethought to give informed consent. Your argument that the doctor and parents of the children consenting on behalf of the child is somehow justifiable is hilarious, but it would explain why you are still mentally ill despite your transition. The doctor’s “consent” is irrelevant, firstly. Their job is to provide sufficient knowledge to the patient and their guardians to make an informed decision wherein the benefits, risks, alternative treatment options and prognosis are discussed. If the child is underage, their parents may make a clinical decision regarding the procedure based on their own research and what the doctor has told them. However, this is where the obvious tranny fallacy falls short. A 13 year old is unlikely to understand the significance of the changes made to their body and their wants and desires at 13 are likely to not align with their desires at 30. If the child says they want to use Lupron and HRT regardless of the known adverse effects later in life, do we assume they have given their consent? Obviously not, since the average teenager is extremely unlikely to comprehend the significance of their decision at a young age. So sure, we rule out the child as a direct source of consent. Do we then just assume the child’s parents are prophets who can read the stars and shit out the future onto a canvas? Again, no. Who are the patient’s parents to make a decision of this magnitude when the margin for error is this enormous? A stupid parent assumes a 13 year old has racked up the knowledge to consent, and a stupider parent agrees to make permanent changes to a child’s body instead of waiting for said child to be old enough to decide themselves. I’m sorry that you were born into a retarded family, I really am, and I’m even more sorry that the doctor who shoved puberty blockers and testosterone down your cunt in the hopes of sprouting a cock was allowed to practice medicine on a child without their license being revoked.
Puberty blockers are also another lovely talking point for trannies which we all love laughing at you for. Using GnRH analogues is not as reversible as you morons like to think, and are currently being extensively studied to observe their longitudinal effects. Some research suggests that they lead to reduced cognition and bone density loss (when not supplemented with androgen replacement). The scant evidence for their benefit vs. risk was evidently concerning enough that the NHS no longer prescribes them and only offers them in clinical research trials. The NHS also had a major scandal at one of its GIDS and was slapped with lawsuits to the extent where it shut the clinic down and reworded its entire website. But sure, 2 states cracked under pressure and allowed themselves to remain complicit in the abuse of children, yippee! Be a guinea pig since you look like one, but don’t expect the rest of us to pull the wool over our eyes while you manipulate and abuse young, impressionable individuals into becoming science experiments like yourself.
Also screaming at “95% of gender dysphoric children remain dysphoric into adulthood”. Literally the opposite, dumbo. If you need to lie to make arguments for yourself, you should probably re-evaluate the strength of your argument. It really is a wonder why only 1% of people are unhappy with their transitions, honestly. It’s almost as if they’re burned at the stake for saying anything against you gaggle of mentally ill misfits. Could be that, no?
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No most of these people actaully do know its not reversible but continue to push it on children anyway. vile.
#Shut up and buy the Ximboland history book!
#FuckTehFashionPoliceAndPronounNaziGoverment!
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Did my daily sweep of iona’s reddit and found this gem: ““male physiology cannot be reformatted into female physiology with estrogen therapy” is a conclusion i both disagree with and find incredibly weak when it is based on incomplete, shoddy, and outdated science, and when real life examples disproving that very statement can be found. the bottom line is that studies into trans women’s physiology compared to cis women almost exclusively come in two categories. they either 1. adjust for body size and find no statistically significant difference or 2. don’t adjust for body size. that should tell you something.“
Funnily enough, I have yet to hear a single case where oestrogen grew man a vagina, widened their pelvic floor and altered their endocrine system to function biochemically identically to a woman’s. Interesting! Don’t worry though, they probably just didn’t adjust for height during their statistical analyses.
Funnily enough, I have yet to hear a single case where oestrogen grew man a vagina, widened their pelvic floor and altered their endocrine system to function biochemically identically to a woman’s. Interesting! Don’t worry though, they probably just didn’t adjust for height during their statistical analyses.
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considering how modern these therapies are, it's good to be cautious. but they are the best options we have right now. transgender people are always a bit fucked in life & medically because of the nature of what they struggle with. again i would tell everyone to look up as much information as there is available right now and pick the lesser evil.
but it's a bit much to call it "child abuse" when your child is suffering with something very complex, and there are certain things that could help make their quality of life better, but they might have side effects or unstudied effects. it's a judgement call really. we are talking about children around preteen or teen age here as well.
a teen with major depression or some socially accepted cisgender hormone issue would not be able to fully "consent" to every side effect the correct pills might have, but it's still the indicated treatment.
as a medical student, you will know you are far from an expert on anything yet - and even if you were, there would still be different opinions and things are not always black and white.
just because the nature of the internet and modern right wing politics have made people feel justified in saying these things doesn't make them any more valid.
i understand transgender healthcare is extremely modern, but all that really tells us is that we do not know some things for sure yet. and we all know this entire debate is not motivated by genuine medical ethics concerns.
then again you can't even be sure if butterfly is serious or not, cause iowa falls for bait too easily. for all we know, butterfly could not give a single fuck about transgender people and only be saying these things because they know it's extremely easy bait, especially nowadays. and it wouldn't make a difference whether they're serious or not, it's bimboland.
i don't even wanna write anything here tbh i just think enough trans people will live extremely unfair lives and die extremely unfair deaths. if some of them end up on hormones early enough to have a chance, why would it make people that upset?
of course we know the answer is the mainstream intelligence.
there are many layers to this, but i will go and let my bimbo try on some slutty clothes now, can't talk too much about science.
and none of these comments will matter anyway when the servers here get deleted due to bankruptcy.
but it's a bit much to call it "child abuse" when your child is suffering with something very complex, and there are certain things that could help make their quality of life better, but they might have side effects or unstudied effects. it's a judgement call really. we are talking about children around preteen or teen age here as well.
a teen with major depression or some socially accepted cisgender hormone issue would not be able to fully "consent" to every side effect the correct pills might have, but it's still the indicated treatment.
as a medical student, you will know you are far from an expert on anything yet - and even if you were, there would still be different opinions and things are not always black and white.
just because the nature of the internet and modern right wing politics have made people feel justified in saying these things doesn't make them any more valid.
i understand transgender healthcare is extremely modern, but all that really tells us is that we do not know some things for sure yet. and we all know this entire debate is not motivated by genuine medical ethics concerns.
then again you can't even be sure if butterfly is serious or not, cause iowa falls for bait too easily. for all we know, butterfly could not give a single fuck about transgender people and only be saying these things because they know it's extremely easy bait, especially nowadays. and it wouldn't make a difference whether they're serious or not, it's bimboland.
i don't even wanna write anything here tbh i just think enough trans people will live extremely unfair lives and die extremely unfair deaths. if some of them end up on hormones early enough to have a chance, why would it make people that upset?
of course we know the answer is the mainstream intelligence.
there are many layers to this, but i will go and let my bimbo try on some slutty clothes now, can't talk too much about science.
and none of these comments will matter anyway when the servers here get deleted due to bankruptcy.
I’m not claiming to know everything, and if you read the subtext of what I was saying I’m literally saying the opposite: that we do not know the long-term impact of certain indicated therapies for gender dysphoria.
I also think the comparison between depression and this case to be entirely disingenuous. It’s true that someone undertaking pharmacotherapy whilst underage may not be fully aware of the implications/side effect of the drug. However, the significance and prevalence of the side effects of a TCA, for example, are nowhere near as drastic as therapy intended to treat “gender dysphoria” - a now nebulous term that anyone who doesn’t like pink or play with dolls can get a diagnosis for. The same goes for a girl who hasn’t had breast bud development by 14 and requires oestrogen - it is not an effective comparison. The treatments MAY work effectively in the RIGHT candidate, but the selection criteria for said candidate is so lax that my dog can go and get top surgery within the week.
It is abundantly apparent that these treatments are in their infancy, yet they are being doled out as though they are entirely safe. Even in instances where people are told by HCPs that there are side effects, who cares when the pervasive narrative online is that these treatments are a rite of passage and are, in fact, evidence-based in efficacy and safety. People now compare getting your tits done at 18 to a young teenager taking HRT. The comparisons are ridiculous.
It’s also extremely dumb to say the argument isn’t motivated by medical ethics. The ENTIRE conversation we are having here hinges upon it. If you think I don’t care about the children being sold pipe dreams, I couldn’t give less of a shit personally, but it’s definitely audacious to insinuate that other people don’t just because of you own opinions. I do agree with some of your post, however, so I appreciate the partially-earnest dialogue.
I also think the comparison between depression and this case to be entirely disingenuous. It’s true that someone undertaking pharmacotherapy whilst underage may not be fully aware of the implications/side effect of the drug. However, the significance and prevalence of the side effects of a TCA, for example, are nowhere near as drastic as therapy intended to treat “gender dysphoria” - a now nebulous term that anyone who doesn’t like pink or play with dolls can get a diagnosis for. The same goes for a girl who hasn’t had breast bud development by 14 and requires oestrogen - it is not an effective comparison. The treatments MAY work effectively in the RIGHT candidate, but the selection criteria for said candidate is so lax that my dog can go and get top surgery within the week.
It is abundantly apparent that these treatments are in their infancy, yet they are being doled out as though they are entirely safe. Even in instances where people are told by HCPs that there are side effects, who cares when the pervasive narrative online is that these treatments are a rite of passage and are, in fact, evidence-based in efficacy and safety. People now compare getting your tits done at 18 to a young teenager taking HRT. The comparisons are ridiculous.
It’s also extremely dumb to say the argument isn’t motivated by medical ethics. The ENTIRE conversation we are having here hinges upon it. If you think I don’t care about the children being sold pipe dreams, I couldn’t give less of a shit personally, but it’s definitely audacious to insinuate that other people don’t just because of you own opinions. I do agree with some of your post, however, so I appreciate the partially-earnest dialogue.
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ButterfIy wrote:
This level of obsession with somebody you met on a 2000s style dress up game stylised around the bimbo aesthetic is weird behaviour. Log out, dude.
Did my daily sweep of iona’s reddit
This level of obsession with somebody you met on a 2000s style dress up game stylised around the bimbo aesthetic is weird behaviour. Log out, dude.
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