[Shop Items] Shop Workers Thread and FAQ

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12.04.2020 14:01:48
AlienPrinceFromVenus

How am I supposed to get the consent of the fgs on anything when over half of them have me blocked? (Well not Alex anymore and in your case that's hypocritical of me to say, true) Just ban me. I'm too annoyed for self control rn, save us both the trouble.

12.04.2020 14:01:48
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12.04.2020 14:02:50
Ulvhild

You asked me to block you, AlienPrince.

12.04.2020 14:02:50
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12.04.2020 14:03:37
AlienPrinceFromVenus

Yes I did, I get hypocritical when annoyed, clearly.

12.04.2020 14:03:37
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12.04.2020 14:39:21
Alexstrasza

I am hereby requesting a 1 day jail sentence from the Prime Bimbo as punishment for my actions. I did not break any forum rules, but I did a lot of damage elsewhere and if you behave poorly when in a position such as a forum guardian, shop worker or designer, you deserve stricter punishment. 

12.04.2020 14:39:21
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12.04.2020 15:25:00
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Alexstrasza wrote:
I am hereby requesting a 1 day jail sentence from the Prime Bimbo as punishment for my actions. I did not break any forum rules, but I did a lot of damage elsewhere and if you behave poorly when in a position such as a forum guardian, shop worker or designer, you deserve stricter punishment. 
Please reconsider your position as forum guardian. I was shocked to read the posts I read from you over the past day -- they were completely unacceptable. I also disagree that you did not break any forum rules. Isn't the first rule of the forums to treat others with respect? Anyways, you seemed burnt out by the FG position and seem to think of it as a thankless and onerous job. It seems as if you would be better off not taking on this burden.

12.04.2020 15:25:00
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12.04.2020 15:30:32
Ulvhild

Honorscollege: Alexstrasza has already resigned as a Forum Guardian, this matter has been dealt with.

Kindly move on to actual shop worker business in this thread now.

12.04.2020 15:30:32
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12.04.2020 16:04:57
PIXIEEE

Shop Update
Pixieee's Transparent Sleeves Blouse (Category: Top)


12.04.2020 16:04:57
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12.04.2020 16:06:16
Ulvhild

I love these blouses, amazing work Pixieee! <3

12.04.2020 16:06:16
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12.04.2020 16:14:43
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PIXIEEE wrote:
Shop Update
Pixieee's Transparent Sleeves Blouse (Category: Top)

so pretty :D! 

12.04.2020 16:14:43
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12.04.2020 17:36:30
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I would just like to add on Alien's post that FGs who left were contacted and asked if they wanted to come back. No one was kicked out. They wanted to leave so they left. They had their reasons and it is not on me to judge because everyone has their own perception and I can't permit myself to interfere in other person's choice especially if someone feels uncomfortable. The only FG I didn't message personally is Vita because really I didn't see when she left and she stayed longer than others. Sandi, Alex and Ulvhild were offered to come back and if change their minds meanwhile just to hit a message to get invitation. Alex was offered to come back not only as FG (FGs already made their server if I got it well), but as a designer because she is the one and I thought she belonged there together with other designers and shop workers.
The conversation Alien pointed to wasn't finished and issue didn't get a chance to get resolved. Once again, no one was kicked, no one was threatened to get kicked. Not before nor after chat permission was transferred to me.

But when a shop worker makes a mistake, they can easily fix it, site lag permitting – reposition the item here or there and if there had been a critical error just replace the image with a new one. At worst there is one more redundant item in the shops. When we make a mistake – and we do, often, trust me – the resulting feedback is in some cases explosive and very negative. Please, consider the forum guardians’ feelings before you retort with something snappy and hurtful. We have feelings too.
When a shop worker makes mistake - some mistakes can be fixed, others can't. We take care not to make them but they do happen sometimes. We also experience mysterious problem that some items double on their own. It's even worse because duplicate appears later so it happens that we notice it after someone already bought it. If items wasn't bought already we remove it. Several shop workers, including me, have experienced that problem. After item get bought we can't simply delete it. We can hide it, then it disappears from your closet and you are wondering what happened with item you spent your money on. For that reason we restrain of doing that.

Site lag - well, I believe all of you experience site lag and know how it is annoying. Our problem with site lag is that it takes a lot of time for single image to get uploaded. Then, that image doesn't appear in shop immediately as usual, there is a time window so we have to wait and double check to avoid possible mistakes. Site lag is certainly not universal shop workers' excuse. It's annoying for everyone. Try voting in fights during site lag, as much as it takes time to load images in fights, that much it takes for pics to get uploaded and then to appear in shop.

Replacing images - It's sometimes the last resort, and usually not to cover our mistakes. Anyway, it is often for the benefit of all users. Do I need to remind you that you asked me to replace pics of some your items after you noticed and fixed some flaw? So you also benefited from that option.

Redundant item in shop - whether you think of doubles or something in your opinion redundant, we can't do much about it because certain limitation of tools doesn't allow us.

Our tools are good enough but not perfect. They have flaws. Shop workers can notice and acknowledge some of these flaws, point to them and wait to be fixed or left as are. Sometimes we face rare bugs. When bug is rare and appear once in several months, it's hard to spot it and point to it. Let's say, there is a bug that occur once per 100 added items. That one is not hard to spot. But if you have a bug that happens once in 6 months for instance, that one will be hard for tracking. Even versed programmers may have a hard time to spot obscure bugs - to find when, where, why and how they happen, what is cause and what consequence, to find out causation and correlations, what is affected by that bug, how to fix it, and then if fixing that bug/s comes in collision with something else.

When FG makes mistake... well you can edit your posts, edit other person's post, obviously you can add new rules afterwards like this with PMs posting, you can block others but others can't block you. Is there more?

Shop workers never receive anything but praise - hm, it's subjective interpretation. We deal with a lot of demands, we invest a lot of time in shop, sometimes someone is annoyed because we didn't do something when they expected. Of course, we don't need to deal with forum disputes unless choose to, so from that perspective we are kinda in better position. But for instance we don't have some advantages that you have like editing our posts, making public rules, banning someone etc. From that point of view we are just regular players. Your practical and executive power is much bigger than ours. Someone may say that shop workers and designers are 'popular' players, but so you are, as well as many other active players, SMs and PB.

Designers receive praise simply because this is dress up game and they make items you all use.

Regarding removing Alien's screenshots - these screenshots are taken from third party app. They are not BL PMs. Due that someone can't or at least shouldn't be punished in BL for what they did or said outside of BL, the same way discord messages shouldn't be forum banned, since discord is third party and basically everything that is going on there doesn't have nearly the same weight as it would have if happened in BL. Anyway, that should be that way on any serious platform. Now this is not a call for starting throwing intimidating screenshots to each other, it's just common sense.

LillyAnn, this is at least the third time I am doing this. I am sorry for yet again lashing out against you. I am sorry for wording my sentences to annoy and upset you. I am sorry for desparately trying to poke holes in your explanations and questioning your abilities as far as image editing and manipulation goes. I am sorry for my misinformed and poorly worded statement about some of the shop workers getting paid fairly regularly.
It was not the third time but who knows which one. It doesn't matter anyway now.
Anyway, I am honestly afraid of you. I don't know what you are ready and capable of to do out of revenge and how far you are ready to go. Actually I know so that's why it is so scary. I had enough of it, so I don't want to speak with you in private, at least not yet. I don't need your sorry, but thanks for the effort. I am not interested to hear your motivation for doing all of this. You and me both know we had similar conversations in the past and many times I heard 'sorry' and 'this is the last time', yet it happened again over and over. You were someone I considered a friend so I went over your many hurtful words and manipulations. You did hurt me a few times in the past, feel free to be proud of it. But after I learned your pattern you have not been able to hurt me anymore, so no need to give yourself a credit for 'hurting' or 'upsetting' or 'annoying' me. You were welcome.

12.04.2020 17:36:30

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