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11.01.2023 07:57:49
Blecky89

I finnaly managed to find time to read till chapter 6. 
Once you get passed chapter 2 it's gets easier to read. To many detailed descriptions imo. 
But besides that I like it so far. The most intresting to me is lord Henry even with all his misogynistic comments. At this point I don't think he is misogynist by choice. At the time he lived woman was considered less than a man. Plus to that it rather seems that he isn't in high thoughts of no one. He loves to lough and to provoke everyone and after look at the reactions they have. He fancies no one. 
Dorian will definitely will turn into an asshole (pardon my languange) .
Human who thinks he's only value in life is good looks and is told to use it while he has it will take advantage of it not worrying about consequences. 
I feel sorry for Basil. He's been betrayed by everyone. Dorian has forgoten about him and feels annoyed by him. While Henry knowingly took away Dorian from him not caring much about his emotions. 
For Sybil I have no high hopes in future she probably will end up just like her mother if not worse.
These are my fave quotes besides those already mentioned :
*Now, the value of an idea has nothing whatsoever to do with the sincerity of the man who expresses it.

*Live the wonderful life that is in you! Let nothing be lost upon you. Be always searching for new sensations. Be afraid of nothing...

*The reason we all like to think so well of others is that we are all afraid for ourselves. The basis of optimism is sheer terror.

*Nowadays most people die of a sort of creeping common sense, and discover when it is too late that the only things one never regrets are one’s mistakes.

11.01.2023 07:57:49
    
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11.01.2023 14:43:25
space_pirate666

Do not want to spoil anything for those still reading but... thanks to your guys' (and gals') opinions, I am more than ever inspired to look at the quotes from a different angle and to look into Wilde's bio. Since clearly I missed a part where author so to say reflects his values and ideas on characters' behaviors (which is huge duh! moment)
Would love to see how my perspective on the book will change after that and I would also encourage others do the same :)

11.01.2023 14:43:25
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11.01.2023 15:16:05
Blecky89

@ babychay "I am a little jealous of the picture for being a whole month younger than I am" (Dorian, pg 41) - first mention and foreshadowing of a comparable visible aging in the painting and Dorian  

I disagree to this. Dorian first was feeling overshadowed already in chapter two when he first saw the painting. He made such a drama about it. 

11.01.2023 15:16:05
    
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12.01.2023 07:15:32
BabyChey_xx

In regards to Henry's character and motivations, I think both of you gals, StrangeKindofWoman and Blecky, made excellent points! At this time women were seen as less than a man and I'm sure a lot of people just fell into roles and took preconceived notions of people told to them as fact because it's what society has told the is correct. It seems Henry does just really enjoy throwing jabs in every direction and let people do with it as they will lol. Definitely a massive troll; but at the same time we can neither confirm nor deny (unless it's stated somewhere that I missed) whether they are his true beliefs or he just says things to get people riled up or both - personally I think it's a bit of both.

And yes Blecky you're right I had forgotten about that first instance. Thank you :)

12.01.2023 07:15:32
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17.01.2023 05:49:32
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I just now discovered this Forum thread.  I'm in on the next book...if this book club continues.

Some of the quotes from Dorian (Oscar Wilde) posted here are masterpieces.

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17.01.2023 09:20:00
StrangeKindOfWoman

I don't want to spoil anything for those who haven't finished reading, but I am really curious what everyone's opinion on chapter 11 is. 

17.01.2023 09:20:00
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17.01.2023 18:57:51
Blecky89

I will tell you tomorrow :D Just finished chapter 10

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Antitheocra
21.01.2023 22:45:02
Melpomene

I really disliked chapter 11. (Light spoilers I guess) Just found it kind of boring and my eyes kept glossing over with all the frivolous description. But I do think they had a point, that being that Dorian could not find any true satisfaction in these material things no matter how fancy or rare, just like the reader will only be frustrated despite the embroidered sentences. Maybe I'm reading too much into it? 


I've finally come up with a schedule for the rest of the reading and discussion. Sorry I've left this hanging for as long as I've had. I wanted to give people time to catch up and also got a little overwhelmed by life myself. Next time, we'll have a better idea of how to plan this from the get-go! Regardless, I think this is what we should aim for now:
Discussion on chapter 6 to 11 starts on: January 26th
Discussion on the rest and whole of the book starts on: February 3rd
(I do not think there is a good way to cut up what comes after chapter 11) 

21.01.2023 22:45:02

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23.01.2023 07:10:44
StrangeKindOfWoman

I felt the same. I skipped several paragraphs, because it was so annoying for me to read. Apparently chapter 11 was written like that french book Henry gave Dorian. 
However, I think it was a very important chapter regarding Dorian's character development. 

23.01.2023 07:10:44
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24.02.2023 17:01:32
space_pirate666

so no one else has any interesting thoughts on the book?~ i-

24.02.2023 17:01:32
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