my opinion on transitioning

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05.04.2024 13:51:13
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I’m not claiming to know everything, and if you read the subtext of what I was saying I’m literally saying the opposite: that we do not know the long-term impact of certain indicated therapies for gender dysphoria.

I also think the comparison between depression and this case to be entirely disingenuous. It’s true that someone undertaking pharmacotherapy whilst underage may not be fully aware of the implications/side effect of the drug. However, the significance and prevalence of the side effects of a TCA, for example, are nowhere near as drastic as therapy intended to treat “gender dysphoria” - a now nebulous term that anyone who doesn’t like pink or play with dolls can get a diagnosis for. The same goes for a girl who hasn’t had breast bud development by 14 and requires oestrogen - it is not an effective comparison. The treatments MAY work effectively in the RIGHT candidate, but the selection criteria for said candidate is so lax that my dog can go and get top surgery within the week.

It is abundantly apparent that these treatments are in their infancy, yet they are being doled out as though they are entirely safe. Even in instances where people are told by HCPs that there are side effects, who cares when the pervasive narrative online is that these treatments are a rite of passage and are, in fact, evidence-based in efficacy and safety. People now compare getting your tits done at 18 to a young teenager taking HRT. The comparisons are ridiculous.

It’s also extremely dumb to say the argument isn’t motivated by medical ethics. The ENTIRE conversation we are having here hinges upon it. If you think I don’t care about the children being sold pipe dreams, I couldn’t give less of a shit personally, but it’s definitely audacious to insinuate that other people don’t just because of you own opinions. I do agree with some of your post, however, so I appreciate the partially-earnest dialogue.
All I know is that if the child were to "transition" from boy to girl (be put on puberty blockers and all, even cut off the penis), if they change their mind as an adult later in life after having developed the mental capacity to differentiate from fantasy and reality, here's what would be the consequences of that later reversing transition....

As a grown man in the dating market
1. He will have a high pitch voice
2. He would have stunted growth (short height)
3. He wont be able to feel sex
4. He wouldnt be able to produce children

A life decision decided as a child???!!!! Is a no-no

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05.04.2024 14:02:28
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AuntieLice wrote:
cybeles wrote:
Saturday wrote:
You are a man you will never be one of the girls and you’ll never know that experience because your lived experience is one of a MANS.
you're right, i am a man. a trans man. r/accidentalally.
Jesus what's up with so many tranny women on this website? You're no man, you have a vagina. It's getting concerning, I think this might be a cult.

I dont know any other game that has this much transgender people! Maybe it's because it mocks female qualities and lifestyle: fake boobs/implants, being a bimbo, the lack of substance, boyfriends, vulgarity, sex toys etc etc

Just what transgender people do in real life! But this is a game so they really pop out here

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05.04.2024 14:09:49
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it would be very unfortunate if that happened but it in terms of policy making you need to look at evidence and make a realistic prediction about harm prevented vs. harm caused based on the evidence instead of just hypotheticals you come up with. regret for gender-affirming surgeries is very very low (although those are rarely performed on minors because most surgeons simply won’t perform them) and minors with gender dysphoria very rarely reidentify with their birth sex. 

untreated gender dysphoria can also adversely affect a minor’s development in ways that are long term, perhaps permanent. there’s evidence that untreated GD constitutes a chronic stressor (stimuli that repeatedly and persistently activates physiological stress responses) and has affects on the brain similar to post-traumatic stress disorder, like disordered executive function (cognitive control of behavior), impaired psychosocial functioning, and atrophy of the cerebellum and hippocampus, which are responsible for bodily coordination and emotions & memory, respectively. experiencing chronic stress also raises lifetime risk for adverse mental and physical health events. if you scroll back a few pages i linked a handful of sources and also have more if you’re interested :]

medicine is all about weighing help against harm and deciding if the likely help is worth the potential harm. those decisions should be left to individuals and in the case of minors to families. 

05.04.2024 14:09:49
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05.04.2024 14:16:44
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This guy who transitioned as an adult (male to female) identified also as a lesbian. What does that tell you HE (who now "identifies" as a she) is still attracted to women regardless of the transition. When he cuts off his penis as he's trying to get into this trendy thing, he will find out women arent attracted to him anymore with the way he looks now and also he wont be able to go back and change it around *WHICH IS THE EXTREME IMPORTANCE OF THERAPY*. He will never be able to sexually please most woman without a penis. (Lillytino_ on instagram)

Do you see the problem of giving a child that power? 

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05.04.2024 14:18:54
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Its because halo is trans and will silence people that dont support teh tran pushers on children and real women

Saturday wrote:
So you’re the minister of a state called Freethinkerland yet you want to silence anyone who freely thinks and has their own opinions… ironic isn’t it? 


05.04.2024 14:18:54
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05.04.2024 14:20:01
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I thought this site was 18+. Why is everyone acting like a high school mean girl?

It’s not cute or quirky or cool or whatever the fuck. You aren’t a real life Plastic or a Heather. It’s embarassing. You’re acting 14.

Grow up.
Period, you ended all the transvestites in this topic. Tine for their delusions to end. 

05.04.2024 14:20:01
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05.04.2024 14:29:32
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Unfortunately they dont really care to learn. They just keep giving thumbs down to anybody that disagrees with their ideologies with absolutely no real argument to reply with because they want to be open-minded to children permanently mutilating their bodies which is just like committing suicide in slow motion. Something is genuinely wrong with them yo.




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05.04.2024 14:53:52
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Justicee wrote:
He will never be able to sexually please most woman without a penis.
Do... do you know what a clitoris is? ⊙⁠﹏⁠⊙

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05.04.2024 15:12:33
Sw33t4sNvts F0REVER

Sw33t4sNvts F0REVER wrote:
That is pathetic!

woman attracted to men and wants to be a man is gay, straight or misogynist?

Cunning Linguist wrote:
iowa thanks for posting all those examples, even though it seems to have gone over their heads. literally just recycled anti-gay rhetoric. people back then were just as freaked out by lesbians & gay men in locker rooms as they are about trans people in locker rooms today (despite plenty of evidence showing that trans people are more likely to be victims of sexual assault than perpetrators of it) 

all these anti-trans people would've been vehemently anti-gay if they were born back then....its just not AS socially acceptable to call gays freaks & pedos as it was back in the day. 

Can someone finally reply to this qustion?
woman attracted to men and wants to be a man is gay, straight or misogynist?
I hoped genderists should know it

Cunning Linguist wrote:
laughing at the idea that 'misogynist' is a sexuality

tho actually....with the andrew tate types it might as well be....
it is a laughing matter that woman attracted to men wants to be a man
it is a laughing matter that you as an expert on genderism dont know is such woman gay or straight.

Or just a mysoginist who hates women and womanhood and subsequently herself

you create false genders and sexualities just to justify your fetishes, get gender privileges and invalidate real women and men  AND THEN subsequently claim to be morally outraged when someone questions it.
All you care about is trans privileges and bringing real and healthy men and women down.

We should be very suspicious of your opinion and motivations


05.04.2024 15:12:33
I am former SweetasNuts FOREVER.
Do not get confused and mistake me for original SweetasNuts AND THEN subsequently claim to be morally outraged by impersonation and roleplay. Then we should be very suspicious of your opinion and motivations.

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05.04.2024 15:23:56
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At this point I’m just grabbing popcorn and watching this train wreck go down 

05.04.2024 15:23:56

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