Pink House Government Feedback Thread

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Created
04.02.2024

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PlushKlavier

torrenoia

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07.02.2024 04:38:58
torrenoia

hi i hope im not interrupting anything, i do not have any feedback at the current point in time other than i massively appreciate the new pink house staff creating a thread like this and taking feedback to heart. one of my biggest pet peeves is grown adults who cannot take any sort of criticism when theyve done wrong, we are all humans and we all fuck up and need to learn from our mistakes to grow as better people. in the past ive definitely had issues with ph staff not being able to admit when they were wrong so this is a nice breath of fresh air :) keep up the good work and good luck!

07.02.2024 04:38:58

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AuntieLice

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07.02.2024 13:11:23
AuntieLice

You're so valid!!!!

07.02.2024 13:11:23

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torrenoia

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07.02.2024 15:26:04
torrenoia

thanks

07.02.2024 15:26:04

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Ascelina

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08.02.2024 04:14:05
Ascelina

while I appreciate transparency, I'm unsure how I feel about it being to such a degree... having a public record of everyones infractions poses some concerns for me, like having a list for ill-intentioned persons to target, putting a bias against individuals who received infractions, setting people up to where they aren't accepted even if they change their behavior, etc.

obviously I can't know how well it will go until it's happened, but I do feel some trepidation, and my instinct is that we may be better off keeping infractions and subsequent penalizations between the moderation team and the player in question. if a player wants to discuss their infractions, they should be welcome to do so, but I feel it more than a bit uncouth to broadcast everyones transgressions.

I'm sure this decision was made in good faith, and I can definitely understand the argument for it. however I'm of the opinion that not everything needs to be a matter of public record. even people who do wrong, or "bad" things, are entitled to a modicum of privacy.

08.02.2024 04:14:05

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bitter.cocoa

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08.02.2024 06:29:05
bitter.cocoa

Okay so I don't ever post in threads like these because of how quickly things seem to escalate but! There's a first for everything I guess.

I've been looking through a bunch of old and new threads and I don't know if this constitutes as a suggestion/feedback for the PH but… why not make blocking another Ximbo an anonymous action? From what I'm seeing a lot of fighting between players - like on this thread, for example - seems like its sort of being amplified by the fact that they know that they've been blocked by certain players? And since it doesn't stop people from talking to each other on the forum, it might help remove at least one (1) layer of animosity in future if they're ever forced to interact with each other whether on the forum or as FP.

Someone could block me because they disagree with me about something as innocuous as thinking that the dress was black and blue instead of white and gold, and that's well within their right! Sometimes people just aren't going to want to interact with you, and there's no obligation (in my opinion) to give a reason if you don't want to. But I do think that if you've chosen not to give any reason, it might lessen conflict between players if we don't have the Mailman stirring things up by alerting the blocked users about it?

08.02.2024 06:29:05

PlushKlavier

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08.02.2024 06:50:42
PlushKlavier

Hi bitter.cocoa, I personally agree with your feedback and believe me when I say that I wasn't happy either about the block feature being updated to needing to include a reason now for blocking people instead of not having it notify people at all, but the block function is not something that we have control over and needs to be adjusted by a coder from Team Bimbo, I suggest you leave your feedback in this thread! https://ximbo.land/forum/suggestions-to-improve-bimboland/t101

08.02.2024 06:50:42

Iowa

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08.02.2024 08:38:22
Iowa

Ascelina wrote:

while I appreciate transparency, I'm unsure how I feel about it being to such a degree... having a public record of everyones infractions poses some concerns for me, like having a list for ill-intentioned persons to target, putting a bias against individuals who received infractions, setting people up to where they aren't accepted even if they change their behavior, etc.

obviously I can't know how well it will go until it's happened, but I do feel some trepidation, and my instinct is that we may be better off keeping infractions and subsequent penalizations between the moderation team and the player in question. if a player wants to discuss their infractions, they should be welcome to do so, but I feel it more than a bit uncouth to broadcast everyones transgressions.

I'm sure this decision was made in good faith, and I can definitely understand the argument for it. however I'm of the opinion that not everything needs to be a matter of public record. even people who do wrong, or "bad" things, are entitled to a modicum of privacy.

this is a possibility we thought about, however we tried to find a happy medium. we only post about serious punishments, such as forum bans and jails, and leave warnings private. additionally, we do not post what specific action lead to the person’s punishment, just the rule break that triggered the punishment. we want to keep a public record of our actions and have also had players ask about other players’ punishments and want to have a place where they can have their questions answered. this is also a system that got personal approval from chris in the hopes of putting some checks and balances in for the pink house. but rest assured if our system ever has unintended consequences such as what you’re describing we will reevaluate and come up with something better.

08.02.2024 08:38:22

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bxdcherri

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08.02.2024 15:05:07
bxdcherri

Ascelina wrote:

while I appreciate transparency, I'm unsure how I feel about it being to such a degree... having a public record of everyones infractions poses some concerns for me, like having a list for ill-intentioned persons to target, putting a bias against individuals who received infractions, setting people up to where they aren't accepted even if they change their behavior, etc.

obviously I can't know how well it will go until it's happened, but I do feel some trepidation, and my instinct is that we may be better off keeping infractions and subsequent penalizations between the moderation team and the player in question. if a player wants to discuss their infractions, they should be welcome to do so, but I feel it more than a bit uncouth to broadcast everyones transgressions.

I'm sure this decision was made in good faith, and I can definitely understand the argument for it. however I'm of the opinion that not everything needs to be a matter of public record. even people who do wrong, or "bad" things, are entitled to a modicum of privacy.

I've thought about this as well and we came to the conclusion that was stated above by Iowa. I've been looking at it like - if the police warn you of your behavior, it doesn't go on the news. But if someone is in jail for a serious crime, it would. If that makes sense? Though I really do hear you, and as of right not we haven't had much feedback on this idea, so if anyone else feels the same way I'd love to hear about it and talk some more about it. I think the tracker thread will have a high likelihood of being weaponized against users, though we've received some demands on transparency, and don't want to moderate the site with just a few peoples opinions in mind. I'd rather hear about it from a lot of people and make a decision about whether or not it should stay open. Tysm for your feedback!

08.02.2024 15:05:07

bxdcherri

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08.02.2024 15:07:53
bxdcherri

bitter.cocoa wrote:

Okay so I don't ever post in threads like these because of how quickly things seem to escalate but! There's a first for everything I guess.

I've been looking through a bunch of old and new threads and I don't know if this constitutes as a suggestion/feedback for the PH but… why not make blocking another Ximbo an anonymous action? From what I'm seeing a lot of fighting between players - like on this thread, for example - seems like its sort of being amplified by the fact that they know that they've been blocked by certain players? And since it doesn't stop people from talking to each other on the forum, it might help remove at least one (1) layer of animosity in future if they're ever forced to interact with each other whether on the forum or as FP.

Someone could block me because they disagree with me about something as innocuous as thinking that the dress was black and blue instead of white and gold, and that's well within their right! Sometimes people just aren't going to want to interact with you, and there's no obligation (in my opinion) to give a reason if you don't want to. But I do think that if you've chosen not to give any reason, it might lessen conflict between players if we don't have the Mailman stirring things up by alerting the blocked users about it?

I agree. There's absolutely no reason for players to be sent a reason for their blocking. Is it to try and get players to better their behaviors? If that's the case I don't think players view it that way and it hasn't worked. In my manifesto I proposed a better block function to be added, and I also wanted to discuss with admins/chris that the whole "reason" thing isn't necessary and would like it removed. Though ultimately I don't have the power to do that, so it may never happen. Ty for your feedback though!

08.02.2024 15:07:53

KatieBoutique

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08.02.2024 15:19:56
KatieBoutique

What might work for starters is a simple Numbers Tracker - Updated Weekly

1. Number of Block Requests: XX
2. Number of Forum Flag Reports: XX
3. Number of Report Bimbo Actions: XX

I think those are the big three. Problem Reports go to admins so they are their domain.
I would like to see these numbers from the start of your Administration - Feb 2.
It would be good if you had the numbers for the last several months too.
The purpose of seeing these numbers (nothing else, just the number)
is to see if there is abnormal flagging by players against other players.
That is something we can all benefit from, I think.

08.02.2024 15:19:56

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