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Trial for titsandass/Her Majesty

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Atheista
02.09.2024 22:21:50
Dean Winchester

Aaand that’s the million dollar question cus there were no purchases associated with that account. 

02.09.2024 22:21:50
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Atheista
03.09.2024 01:32:05
lovelifegirl

Ty dean and the team for investigating, i initially posted a comment here, but deleted it deciding to wait and see what else was said. 
i would like to say that with everything presented for the stats only, it would’ve been possible to get those stats as the account displayed ( obviously if this was the route taken is entirely different, but just throwing it out there that the maths was just a tad incorrect but that doesn’t entirely matter at the bulk of it ). 
have we accounted for the days and lottery spins that would’ve been played while the account was still active? although it is completely RNG, it is possible to gain a multitude of diamonds that way ( iirc, i think i got like 600D once in like 4 spins so super lucky ). it would’ve also been possible to RNG 3 artifacts for 10D ( super easy to get small amounts of diamonds using duels and exploring the site as well ). 
Either way, the only possible way ( if it wasn’t done legit ) is to hack the website, which imo i doubt MH did; and lets say she did, that should entirely be up to the dev team and chris and not us players, bc if she did hack, then that needs to be looked into yesterday as a flaw system and who knows what other information COULD be obtained that way. the dev team probably doesn’t bc of the state of this site ( lmaoo ) but if they did keep a log, its possible they may be able to see the stat changes (( but again super highly unlikely given how this site runs )).

i also was doing some rough maths ( i don’t do maths like at all, i was a science nerd lol ), and with people voting, duels, jobs, games, relationships, i roughly estimated a bit over 10K in SA on the lower end, thats give or take quite a bit ( for the job, i roughly estimated 10 hours - as their achievements said, and 30 SA for this - this would be the biggest factor in the numbers as it could very well have been a lot more // and for duels, i accounted 5SA points [ about the number you get for undemanding, to avg it on piece of cake to tough ] for 30 times a day ( though if MH was telling the truth, it could go up to 40 on that grind ).

as said, this is just super rough, and i am not bothered - but you could make a spreadsheet and track with numbers with their jobs and minigames for SA if thats into question too, and change/update the stat changes with the next job or wtv, and i’d rather not do that myself LOL ( way too much effort for this ) 

(( i’d also like to note that a bot is basically an automated system, and cannot do something that isn’t physically possible for you to do [ in the case of PCUMA - you could press the duel button every 30 minutes as thats what’s allowed, a bot wouldn’t speed up the time, make you win, change stats/numbers or anything like that. obviously this isn’t actually viable due to sleep, life, work etc, but you could do it if you takeaway actually living ] )) 

03.09.2024 01:32:05


Minister of Foreign Affairs

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03.09.2024 02:07:37
Slayyyocrates

Dean Winchester wrote: (original post HERE)
Aaand that’s the million dollar question cus there were no purchases associated with that account.
Top Ups would be associated with that account.
Gifts … would not.

They were gifts.  By the Boss.  The Leader of the Leveling Consortium.

SOC Theory Engaged

03.09.2024 02:07:37
“The Truth is always found in the middle.” 
Slayto: “SOC, is that a popup in your pants or are you just glad to see me?”
Minister of Entertainment

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Atheista
03.09.2024 02:13:10
Dean Winchester

Soc we already checked that account for payments and there weren’t purchases associated to i

03.09.2024 02:13:10
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Atheista
03.09.2024 02:13:16
lovelifegirl

^^ you can also get diamonds by levelling up, which idk nor can remember how many you would get from just levelling, but id imagine from levels alone, before deactivation could be 1000-1500D ( i think? idk lol, rough estimate give or take; icr if this was mentioned either, i think it was? im jared 19 :PP ) 

(( i also just completed my dailies lmao, and i forgot to account for 12 dailies at the least, would’ve been 600 SA - not accounting for retries and token usage. so i’d change my initial 10k+ SA to nearly 11k - still stands tho above lol )) 

03.09.2024 02:13:16


Minister of Entertainment

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Atheista
03.09.2024 02:43:07
Dean Winchester

we did run a simulation fo titsandass account AND we did not get enuff diamonds to do so

03.09.2024 02:43:07
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Atheista
03.09.2024 03:15:13
lovelifegirl

ty for clarifying dean, i thought i read that before, im just not thinking lol. then the only other significant way to get numerous diamonds as i said in prev. comment is for spins, which cannot be duplicated ( and i doubt the dev team has any of those logs kept ) and unless HM clarifies i just gotta give the benefit of the doubt, simply due to the fact that stat wise it is possible, and tracking diamonds is more since only levelling up is the way to those diamonds, but not the numerous other ways ( duels, spins, site exploration etc ) and only HM can confirm. 

03.09.2024 03:15:13


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Antitheocra
03.09.2024 03:21:02
Pollyx

lovelifegirl wrote: (original post HERE)
Ty dean and the team for investigating, i initially posted a comment here, but deleted it deciding to wait and see what else was said. i would like to say that with everything presented for the stats only, it would’ve been possible to get those...
Hi lovelifegirl!! Thank you for the feedback. Would you be willing to specify where the math was incorrect? Below are some already noted ways in which my math was incorrect but I would love to learn more so I can correct them:

1) I accidentally calculated minigames as every 24 hours instead of every 20. This does make a difference but with the other data included we can't really consider this a good explanation for the missing points (in my opinion)
2) I included titsandass' jail time in the days on site which was obviously not correct as they could not have been doing minigames during that time. This would make the numbers lower.

Other than this I would love to know where I've messed up if I did!! You say it would have been possible to get those stats and I agree, it is technically possible, but based on my probability info posted in my last reply here, it is unlikely. Not a 0% chance, but close to that. If we take into account that I miscalculated the number of hours between minigame resets, that would give titsandass a higher score IF they were able to have the right number of artifacts which as we know is pretty near impossible, it would have to be a site glitch to get even HALF the number of bimbopoly board game artifacts they would need. Even with more frequent minigames meaning you might need fewer artifacts overall, the number you would need is near-impossible. Like, only possible on a technicality. If you disagree please let me know!! I really do not want to be miscalculating here and feel bad about what I've already included.
"have we accounted for the days and lottery spins that would’ve been played while the account was still active?"
This was a consideration but not a huge one. They would have had 4 lottery tickets during their time on site, though I don't know if it counts if you've been jailed...? So they might have missed one. Probably not a huge diamond payout from that when we compare to how many diamonds they claim to have spent and how many additionally they would need to do this.
"you can also get diamonds by levelling up, which idk nor can remember how many you would get from just levelling"
Yes! I took this into account. It could be useful for some numbers, but just wouldn't add up to the number of diamonds they'd need to gain this many artifacts or skip that many tasks.

"it would’ve also been possible to RNG 3 artifacts for 10D"
Very true. I had only considered the exchanging for a specific artifact for 100D which is too expensive, but this is a potential option. However, for early players the likelihood of receiving enough of the same type of artifact, any artifact, to trade it in, is pretty unlikely. Risky play to trade in some of your only matching artifacts for one single random artifact.

Here is a quote I received from another user about this a few hours ago:
"hi, i've just read the new titsandass trial, and i have to say that while your probability calculations may be correct, they don't take into account that you can swap artifacts. you need 3 artifacts of the same kind and 100D to exchange it to something different of your choice (10D for a randomized choice but i think it was unlikely in her case). also, some artifacts are more rare than others, for example i noticed senator's grail is really hard to get naturally. but anyways, i can tell you, on a lower level it's actually hard to get 3 or more artifacts of the same type to exchange it, i remember being around lvl 30 on [ACCOUNT NAME] and my artifacts were like this: 4 of one kind, 2 of one kind, 1 of one kind, 3 of one kind, 1 of one kind, and so on and so forth. on such low level your chances of getting 3 artifacts of the same kind are still kinda low. and she still would need even more diamonds for that"
So that's more info on that. I definitely failed to include artifact swapping in my calculations, but it still seems pretty unlikely, especially when you need so many diamonds to swap that many times and so many of the same type of artifact to be able to do it in the first place. It just doesn't seem to change things. I do know some artifacts are much harder to get but have not been able to figure out what exact percentages there are for the drop of each artifact.
"that should entirely be up to the dev team and chris and not us players, bc if she did hack, then that needs to be looked into yesterday as a flaw system and who knows what other information COULD be obtained that way. the dev team probably doesn’t bc of the state of this site ( lmaoo ) but if they did keep a log, its possible they may be able to see the stat changes (( but again super highly unlikely given how this site runs ))"
Agreed. I would really like admin to look into this and have reached out to some and will be reaching out more. SAN has been notified of this but is not available. For the time being, a trial to try to see if people think this user is guilty of interfering with the site's function is useful in that we can use it to 1) protect the site from people who may exploit its somewhat popsicle stick code, if the senators vote that Her Majesty is guilty, and 2) use the opportunity of the case to gather more evidence and data to further our case for why admin should look into this. Thank you so much for contributing your calculations!! You are a huge part of that.

Basically, I am presenting this math to make the case that this is NOT possible to do legit, even if you don't have a life and have unlimited free time. Again I have zero personal issue with the users involved at all, I just truly do think some kind of interference has occurred here. "Botting" is not the right term but it is also one people can understand as "a machine doing things you aren't personally doing" which may have been involved as well. I'm not a computer science person so my wording around this is super clumsy. I don't know how they did it, I just feel based on the overwhelming evidence and unbelievable numbers that they could not have done this manually. Does that make sense?

Finally: Thank you for your math around SA! I did not include Sex Appeal in my calculations because there are way more ways you can increase that stat and some of them can be aided by other players, looping us back around to the "is using alts to up your own stats allowed?" question which is not on the table right now. Fitness, Vanity, and Superficiality have a much more limited rate at which they can be increased which is why I focused on those.

Thank you for bringing your thoughts to the table and if you disagree please let me know!!

Anyone else with more to share or any leads, please feel free to DM Dean (or any FP, or myself because I'm involved now) your information even if you are not a Senator and we can take a look. It can help the investigation!



03.09.2024 03:21:02
(full version with links in other tabs of my profile as well as my xeets) Hey all, this is your Minister of Fashion
Pollyx! I can be wordy, and am here, so here’s a TLDR for those who
trust me and just want to know the gist of it: Seriously, for real,
actually this time, cancel your Senatorships. Do not spend money on the
site. Remove the site’s access to your paypal. Do not volunteer for the
site or run for public office. This includes designing for the shop! Designers and prospective designers, I absolutely love you all to death, but this has got to stop.Anyway, the longer version:SweetasNuts,
the owner of this site, is an abusive person and known cheapskate who
refuses to hire new staff or adequately pay his existing staff in favor
of exploiting free labor from his users. Those who DO volunteer for him,
sometimes paying for the privilege of doing so, are treated
abhorrently, subjected to gaslighting and emotional abuse both publicly
and privately. I have personally experienced rampant mistreatment from
SweetasNuts (as have many others) as recently as today!If
you want an example, check any SweetasNuts thread and read it. I don’t
feel a need to drop a bunch of receipts below when it’s overwhelmingly
clear, but I hope those of you who know the love I’ve put into this site
will take me at my word. I have loved Ximboland and love it
still. At various points I have put more than full time hours into this
website and the shop in an attempt to make things better—usually
completely unpaid, as I did a lot of work before I became Minister of
Fashion. The saddest part, at the end of it, is that no matter how much I
work and how much love I put in the site will always get worse on
average or nosedive into oblivion (as we are seeing right now) due to
actions of trolls, hackers, or most primarily—Chris himself.There are numerous sources online which discuss Chris’s behavior as a business owner in-depth, both on this site and on its previous iteration, Miss Bimbo. It’s pretty clear the guy is a troll who likes when people get upset and throw a fit. In that sense, he may love this post!If
you’d like one recent example of someone bringing up issues to Chris,
being subjected to abuse, and being unable to sway Chris away from
terrible decisions, here’s one from a little over a year ago!
And yet nothing changes—the same cycles continue. New people join, they
see the community is lovely yet has a few flaws, perhaps some bad eggs
(rampant trolls), or maybe someone in the Pink House seems like they’re
abusing their power. They work really hard to rise up, join the
government, fight the “enemies” of the day, etc. and the whole thing
just causes chaos and misery for the most part and the site owner sits
back with popcorn.Oh wait, I forgot when Chris put numerous
ximbos (some who disagreed with him, others unprompted to my
understanding) on trial last year for having “bad fashion”! Here’s the trial for Melpomene, renowned designer, shop worker, and previous Antitheocra SM. Here’s the trial for KittyOnyx, who criticized Chris’s behavior. This one’s for Dean Winchester,
who made the grievous mistake of wearing a pink thong as a himbo.
Egregious, right! How dare a man dress in pink? Anyway, moving on.
Anyone care to share older “Chris is consistently a huge jerk to his
players and volunteers and never listens or fixes the site” examples
below?Now, when I talk about “volunteering” for the site
(aka what I am trying to convince you not to do), here are the positions
I mean:Partially paid (larger treasury cut, in theory, but extremely overworked):Prime XimboPartially paid (meager treasury cut —pennies on the hour):Minister of Fashion (gets meager treasury cut—pennies on the hour—so still a volunteer position)Minister of Entertainment (gets meager treasury cut—pennies on the hour—so still a volunteer position)Minister
of Foreign Affairs (gets meager treasury cut—pennies on the hour—so
still a volunteer position, plus you’re doing marketing for free. Not
super fun!)Minister of Justice (gets meager treasury cut—pennies on
the hour—so still a volunteer position, plus you’ll be absolutely
exhausted by the effort of moderation and part of the userbase will hate
you no matter what you do)No promise of payment/unpaid:Fashion Police (exhausting moderation work, now with kneecapped abilities to even stop abuse thanks to SAN)Fashion Worker (the people who upload items to the shop)Fashion
Designer (those who design for the shop—believe me, I have tried very
hard to convince SAN to reward this position in any way but was
unsuccessful)Not only unpaid, but PAYING to do this position:State
Minister (have to pay for Senatorship plus pay for all of the prizes
out of their own pocket—when you receive prizes from an SM, it’s because
they paid for them with real-world money)Please don’t do any
of this! I have been in the Pink House since October 2023 and am very
close with those who have been in or around the PH even longer or in
different time periods. Nothing changes. Talking to the site
owner doesn’t work. It doesn’t matter how you explain it, he won’t
listen and he doesn’t care because he continues to make enough passive
income to ignore people’s complaints. So what now?Well, first, let’s stop giving him that passive income, especially
given the recent major hacking incident has proven AGAIN that the site
is not secure. Chris is a liar—do not trust him when he says your
payment information is fully secure just because of Paypal, that is not
necessarily true. Remove your Paypal from XL (on the Paypal end) and
consider removing your bank accounts from Paypal for the time being,
better safe than sorry.When you spend money on this site, it
does not go to the people running it, to those who put in love and time
into moderation, the shop, contests, and even advertising the site. It
goes to Chris, who does not pay his staff properly and does not improve
the site. He only makes it worse based on his agenda. A small amount of
Senatorship goes to the government ministers, sure, but the amount is
not significant enough to matter (and there’s decent evidence that the
treasury doesn’t even reflect what it should be—⅓ of the cost of all
Senator subs). Besides, half of the treasury this term will go to
KatieBoutique (since she and her alt Slayyyocrates are both ministers),
and if any of you have been paying any attention to Katie that will
likely ruffle your feathers.It’s not worth contributing to
this place financially. It does not help the site grow. It does not go
to fixing bugs. It does not go to adding a mobile scroll bar. It does
not pay your favorite designer. It does not fix minigame glitches. It
likely won’t go to refunding people’s State Wars purchases after the
hack or restoring corrupted outfits (IF restoring them is even
possible). Cancel your Senatorship, never buy top-ups, don’t volunteer
your time for the site, and turn on ad block! Don’t let Chris get your ad revenue either!That’s
pretty much it. I do have some last thoughts if you’re interested, but
if you don’t care feel free to leave. It’s up to you to decide what to
do now. You can still help the site if you want to, but I strongly
believe it’s really only going to degrade, and as shown by the hacking
incident, this site really isn’t secure. It’s built on popsicle sticks.
You could lose all of this at any moment. Are all these users who lost
their outfits ever going to get them back? It’s really hard to say.Secondarily,
if you want to make a difference in the world there are a million
better places to do it than on XL. If you want to make art in a
community, lots of ways to do that too. Art Fight, a yearly event, is
great for this. You could make a game, write a novel, make outfits in
the Sims, join another dressup game (I hear some people here are making
one), generally touch grass. We should all touch grass. If it’s about
making the world a better place for you, maybe you could join a local
chapter of an organization that means something to you or donate what
you WOULD have spent on top-ups to a good cause. Join a rally, write an
op-ed, talk to people you love about what matters.If you want
to keep in touch with me, feel free to message anyone on XL you have on
Discord and they can probably connect us, I’ve got a lot of people
added.Alright, and now that we get to the end I just
want to shout out the users who have spent a lot of time showing love to
the users and uplifting the site as a whole. None of them asked for
this or even know that I’m doing this, so I won’t list them by name as
much as category. I may have individual personal issues with some people
on this site (not most), but I think this is kind of beyond that. We
are all victims of an exploitative site owner who constantly sets the
site up for interpersonal conflict because he finds it hot. He gets off on all these sexy bimbo avatars going at each other’s throats. So this is kind of an act of solidarity in that.Thank
you to all past and present government ministers, prime ximbos, state
ministers, fashion police, fashion designers, fashion workers, and
anyone else who has run contests or events.Thank you to the
active duelers staying up late into the night, the state generals and
citizens fighting for their state, those who help others get their
curious badge, those who leave comments on all the new players’
profiles, those who share gifs on weird gif wednesday, those who share
support when someone says they’re struggling or upvote posts in
Reputation Points Helper thread. Thank you, even, to those
I’ve fought with, those I’ve made up with, those I still dislike, those
who grate at my nerves. You’re part of the site, too, an ecosystem we
all exist in—this insular little community. Though of course I
will be leaving this community now, probably permanently. Not sure
about emigration yet—we’ll see. But I’ve got big things coming up soon
in my life and I can’t have this site’s nonsense messing with my groove.I’ve
loved growing as a person through my interactions with each of you and
I’ve loved designing and adding for the shop and running events and
making outfits and all of it, but I hate the way the site is run by
Chris (which is: generally not run at all, and if it is it’s done
maliciously). I hate receiving constant abuse from the site owner and
trolls and hackers and I hate seeing other people experience that too. I
hate that this site many of us feel is a second home has become so
foul, is rotting from the inside because of neglect and mistreatment
from the site owner. I had enough mold in my real life home last year,
as many of you know, and find myself uninterested in choking on the
spores here.Anyway, so much love, care about you all (except
in those few cases where the feeling of dislike is mutual, in which case
I say one last hearty “fuck you!”). Stay slutty, babes.







State Minister

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Atheista
03.09.2024 03:58:07
lovelifegirl

Tysm Polly! Sorry I was just agreeing with the others about the calculations ( if we’re being generous and say the senator artifact 2x was the 72 hour one, that accounts for 80 points at highest every game for a max of 6 days [ game artifact + senator grail ] which i agree is either lucky or questionable ) for the games and i did rly scuffed maths on the SA bc it was brought into question on the cheating allegations, but wholeheartedly agree with you. the artifacts definitely is questionable and how it would’ve come and its unfortunate SAN isn’t here ( lmaoo ). I actually had no idea using this would actually bring a case for the dev team to actually look into their code ( honestly if you inspect element, the code is difficult to read from a coding standpoint LOL ), but I am glad it is! 
The botting thing definitely, and ik its loosely used, but just thought i’d throw that out there bc ik there is a bit of misunderstandings ( not directly you, but just in general and that its something it isn’t ykyk just for a future PH team who may investigate similar allegations so it’d be more exploits or hacks pretty much, but unless the dev team and check logs, ips or wtv, unless they have an idea on how it was hacked, its harder to track and exploits are a different can of worms to open ). it could be to RNG focused for me, and i think HM shouldn’t keep quiet bc only she knows exactly whats happened and would help understand whats happened with the artifacts and diamond usage/gain. i’d say an IP ban might be a bit harsh, but then again idk. w chests giving artifacts and spins giving chests its too luck/rng based for me to comfortably definitively say yay or nay, but tysm for answering and clarifying for me Polly! c: I felt like i was using too much effort doing the maths for SA myself lmaoo, i cannot imagine what you did for the three stats and accounting/keeping track of the crazes ToT 


03.09.2024 03:58:07


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Freethinkerland
03.09.2024 04:00:00
halobear8

If artifact exchanging was to blame for the multitudes of artifacts used, wouldn't Her Majesty already have used that as an explanation? My theory is that HM hacked + gave themself more diamonds. 

03.09.2024 04:00:00
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Yes ­ a Ximbo can hold the position of Prime Ximbo for 6 terms max.

How often do elections take place?
The Fashionable Republic of Ximboland holds elections every 3 months for Prime Ximbo and every 3 months for State Ministers.

Where do important discussions take place?
The Town Square.

What is the treasury/ministers/Prime Ximbos salary?
The treasury/salary is the bank account of The Fashionable Republic of Ximboland. This figure is transferred to the paypal account of the Prime Ximbo at the end of their 3 month term in charge.

How is the treasury calculated?
The treasury is funded by the Ximbo xenators.
A percentage (33%) of the money paid by Ximbo xenators via Paypal is transferred into the Ximbo treasury. The rest is used for further Ximboland development.

What are the national colours of Ximboland?
Pink and purple

How old must I be in order to become a Ximboland xitizen?
Anyone over the age of 18 can become a Ximbo xitizen.

When are the national holidays of Ximbo land?
Jan 1st ­ New years day
Feb 12th ­ Darwin day
Feb 14th ­ Lovers day
March 8th ­ Womens day
March 21st ­ Spring solstice
April 13th ­ The Hitchslap Day (Christopher Hitchens birthday)
May 3rd ­ National day of reason
June 21st ­ World Humanist Day
Aug 2nd ­ The Fashionable Republic of Ximboland national day
Sep 21st ­ Peace one day
Dec 25th ­ Newtons birthday

What are the currencies of Ximboland?
The Ximbo Dollar (B$). Currently it is pegged in value to the US$ and the Ximbo Diamond.

Dec 25th ­ Newtons birthday

Who is the President of Ximboland?
Sindy Laaron I aka Miss Bimbo is the President of Ximboland. She founded the great bimbo nation in 2007 after escaping the tyranny, poor fashion jealousy of the old world. You can read more about her here and here

Where is MissBimbo.com?
The Fashionable Republic of Ximboland was created by Miss Bimbo herself and is its successor.

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