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Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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bxdcherri
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bxdcherri
23.12.2023 19:33:27
bxdcherri
Are you asking about the Bimboland discord server that was created and approved by admins to help with State Wars organisation? 

23.12.2023 19:33:27

herbivore_princess
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23.12.2023 19:48:48
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 hearing the extent of everything is super depressing

from what i have gathered, all of these issues originate from this coder guy in the middle of everything? does he still work on the site? he seems like a very unpleasant person. maybe we should all turn our focus to addressing this man causing rifts between everyone?

23.12.2023 19:48:48

KatieBoutique
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KatieBoutique
23.12.2023 20:00:54
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I want to thank Plush for providing me/us, 
in her post, 
with the last two crucial missing links 
to my/our investigation into 
The Freethinkerland Dynasty
They are there, plain as day, for anyone to see.

This is another Golden, creative opportunity to launch a third, and Final Contest
Inspired once again, by the posts in this thread.
But I am going to pass on that.*
*(The other two contests have been removed from this thread and placed in another location)

Instead, I/we am/are going to wait for Miss Bimbo to reappear, 
read all the content that has been posted since her last visit, 
and see what she has to say.

Honestly?  I have no idea what her responses will be.

23.12.2023 20:00:54

pepperoni
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pepperoni
23.12.2023 20:33:39
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pepperoni wrote:
hm. I have some thoughts.
so i guess it took me 3 weeks to get my thoughts out but a lot of people have expressed things a lot more thoroughly and gracefully than i could and i work better making lists

- it seems apparent chris does not want "democracy", he wants a userbase that agrees with the opinions he already holds. he has always vastly overestimated the likelihood that people who played with bratz dolls growing up would be right-leaning.

- actual democracies have freedom of speech, a right that exists to protect citizens from consequences should they choose to speak out against their government. ximboland's rules include "don't undermine the democracy or government" and "do not advertise external channels of communication". these are direct forms of censorship and have no place in an actual democracy

- people like butterfiy and auntielice have essentially been sanctioned trolls.(hi, i know this is the first time i've ever actually acknowledged you! do your thing, i won't be responding to either of you.) i've seen them say literally anything they think could be incendiary, even contradicting past sentiments, just because they hope it'll get a rise out of someone and get them that attention they're so desperate for. it's mostly new users who are not familiar with their shit and give them an undeserved benefit of the doubt who try to engage them. i have only ever once seen them get a week-long ban, and then they came back, committed the exact same infraction (repeatedly asking an intersex player invasive questions about their genitalia), and it was reported again and no subsequent action was taken against either offender.

- meanwhile, as mentioned in other posts, other users have been banned for? existing as queer, apparently

- mariolka is not the sole source of all our problems, but his presence on the site has been pretty emblematic of everything wrong with this place (remember the time he posted a story on the forums about "killing rainbows"?). like it's absolutely not a secret that he posts what any other site would consider hatespeech, and that that hatespeech is allowed because of his position. if chris were a responsible owner or even just a normal person who at all disagreed with what mariolka was saying and rightly recognized it as a liability to his brand, he'd have found a new coder years ago. but he stays cool with mariolka for some reason

- "why has [xyz left-leaning or non-in-group user] not run for office?" this kind of treatment and inaction from staff implicitly condones that kind of behavior. it de-incentivizes people who are not already aligned with those in charge from trying to obtain these positions of power. left-leaning users who might want to actually change something are aware they're going to be under higher scrutiny, and possibly target of more harassment or bigotry than before if they choose to put themselves in the public eye. the written rules may say one thing but in practice there's not a lot of room for anyone who has an different perspective to enter into ximbo politics. as plush put it: "the stress was not worth it."

- also in my own personal opinion i am not wasting any of my real actual money on this site to get the senatorship in order to run. this is not a product i consider worth paying for

- if the owner wants this to be a right-wing site, market it clearly as a right-wing site, and i'll leave of my own volition. otherwise it feels like the idea of "democracy" on a sassy little dress-up site is to try to scam lefties and non-bigots out of their money toward a useless product with the vague ideas of changing it - which has been demonstrated doesn't matter, because chris/"miss bimbo" will be self-appointed regardless if chris doesn't like how things are functioning as per the will of the player base.

if this is the post that gets me banned, then it will have been worth it! but i don't think there's any saving this place, i can only hope someone comes up with a more moderated clone where i can play dress-up without worrying about getting called slurs or having someone try to bait me into a conversation about which identities are valid.

23.12.2023 20:33:39
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KirstyD8
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KirstyD8
23.12.2023 22:28:55
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bxdcherri wrote:
Having the coder of the game threaten to break someone’s legs really sums up what’s been going on behind the scenes imo. And the fact that whenever it’s been shared it gets deleted and the person get banned. At this point, I’ve had enough of being scared to speak my mind, so ban me like all the others. I was happy to reach out to Iowa and ask about wtf was going on, because no court case was ever made. And that’s the case for so many fucking players. I went and did my own research, and I’m standing here now saying I want no fucking part in all this bullshit anymore. I’m an SM that advocates freedom of speech, and yet mention any reason as to why Iowa got banned, or any of their friends, mention Marr, mention the Reddit, mention the Google doc, mention ANYTHING that would indicate corruption in the PH and you get banned. No wonder people are deciding to speak up now, because MissB has called it out, and now players feel comfortable enough to start talking. And if we get silenced, well youve only gone and proven him right. 

Enough is enough.

You know very well only bots, alts and minors get banned but if this if how you want to appear publicly acting like your going to get banned when you know you will not and you know excatly why it won't happpen.
You've not been able to speak freely? Thats all i have seen you do. Don't know why your suddenly feeling scared considering you have been speaking freely already. I mean you spoke your mind pretty freely towards another player on this page, no? - https://ximbo.land/forum/ximboland-democracy-failures-and-how-to-address-it/t14091?page=31 
Speaking of banning people going to court, well if chris does what he stated then the ban tool won't be needed for the next PB since alts and bots are not a problem. Only problem will be minors and next PB can contact admin to ban the account. Problem solved. Remove the banning tool from PB.
Speaking of courts since we want things to be transparent in the PB term court should be used for jailing. That would make it fair and transparent if someone needs to be jailed that way no PB and their FP can abuse it. We wouldn't want someone jailing someone just because they dislike or hate them, holding onto grudges right? Plus since you stated you advocates freedom they should get to speak before any jailing. Seems like a good option all round for transparency.
 
I think these options (no ban tool for PB and all players that need to be jailed go to court first) are best since for the no silencing and censoring way to move forward in new PB term. Do people agree with this?

23.12.2023 22:28:55
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bxdcherri
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bxdcherri
23.12.2023 22:38:33
bxdcherri
You really just linked me calling out B for his bullshit like it meant something. 
I will agree, CURRENTLY bots/minors get banned. During Bleckys term she’s been absolutely wonderful and kind and generous and an absolute joy for everyone on the site. I don’t think anyone is claiming that’s Blecky has wrongfully banned though. We are talking about past events. 

And yeah. I guess I’m a little nervous about speaking out after seeing all of these screenshots, considering theyre showing the absolute power trips people have gone on in the past. 

23.12.2023 22:38:33

Gemima1984
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Gemima1984
23.12.2023 22:56:31
Gemima1984
I know you guys are pissed off but I think staying civil and just answering the genuine and valid questions people have is probably the best way to resolve the matter.

Gemima1984 wrote:
Sorry, so Iowa gets banned because of an incident where somebody uses a profile picture of Lilly Ann on reddit but butterfly can do the exact same thing and nobody gives a shit?

Can somebody please explain why there are these double standards? That doesn't sit right with me at all?
Just want an explanation on the inconsistency of punishment with regards to rule breaking. As an outsider it's kind of wild to me so any rationale behind that would be helpful. Thank you,

23.12.2023 22:56:31
KirstyD8
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KirstyD8
23.12.2023 23:11:35
KirstyD8
bxdcherri wrote:
You really just linked me calling out B for his bullshit like it meant something. 
I will agree, CURRENTLY bots/minors get banned. During Bleckys term she’s been absolutely wonderful and kind and generous and an absolute joy for everyone on the site. I don’t think anyone is claiming that’s Blecky has wrongfully banned though. We are talking about past events. 

And yeah. I guess I’m a little nervous about speaking out after seeing all of these screenshots, considering theyre showing the absolute power trips people have gone on in the past.

Calling out someone for their bullshit is not speaking you mind freely? Lets forget about that then, what about all throughout this thread, they came across to me as you speaking your mind freely?
See the ban thing got dropped it reply, cool.

Nice to see people claim they want transparency yet dislike the option that would give what you people want all around, Guess you don't want it after all.

 pepperoni wrote:
 if this is the post that gets me banned, then it will have been worth it! but i don't think there's any saving this place, i can only hope someone comes up with a more moderated clone where i can play dress-up without worrying about getting called slurs or having someone try to bait me into a conversation about which identities are valid.

If you read througt the thread properly you would know only bots, alts and minors get banned.
Everyone need to stop pushing the narrative that they are going to get banned,

23.12.2023 23:11:35
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ButterfIy
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ButterfIy
23.12.2023 23:20:07
ButterfIy
bxdcherri wrote:
You really just linked me calling out B for his bullshit like it meant something. 
I will agree, CURRENTLY bots/minors get banned. During Bleckys term she’s been absolutely wonderful and kind and generous and an absolute joy for everyone on the site. I don’t think anyone is claiming that’s Blecky has wrongfully banned though. We are talking about past events. 

And yeah. I guess I’m a little nervous about speaking out after seeing all of these screenshots, considering theyre showing the absolute power trips people have gone on in the past. 
A past event that never happened (Juggalo Rights/Iona getting banned for doxing someone). Perhaps you should collect your thoughts a little better next time.

Gemima1984 wrote:
I know you guys are pissed off but I think staying civil and just answering the genuine and valid questions people have is probably the best way to resolve the matter.

Gemima1984 wrote:
Sorry, so Iowa gets banned because of an incident where somebody uses a profile picture of Lilly Ann on reddit but butterfly can do the exact same thing and nobody gives a shit?

Can somebody please explain why there are these double standards? That doesn't sit right with me at all?
Just want an explanation on the inconsistency of punishment with regards to rule breaking. As an outsider it's kind of wild to me so any rationale behind that would be helpful. Thank you,
Iona did not get banned for doxing LillyAnn. Do you need me to repeat it again for you? Let me know, I’d be happy to help in any way that I can.

23.12.2023 23:20:07
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AuntieLice
23.12.2023 23:47:42
AuntieLice
Girl you started playing right at the end of 2022, we were barely logging in throughout the entire 2023 so what are you on about? These alts don't even try to hide it anymore 

23.12.2023 23:47:42
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What is Ximbo land ?
The Internet republic of Ximbo lands is the worlds first Internet republic.

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Where is MissBimbo.com? Miss Bimbo was much better than this site.
The Internet republic of Ximbo land was created by Miss Bimbo herself and is its more intelligent successor. The old site was for junior bimbos. This site is for intelligent Ximbos.

What is the national flag of Ximbo land?
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Bimbo City

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I want to become Prime Ximbo. How do I do that?
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