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Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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Miss Bimbo
Iowa
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Reasonopia
23.12.2023 00:02:49
Iowa

that genuinely means a lot pixie. i'm trying to lay everything out all the information i have to be as transparent as possible which is why i mentioned what i knew about mariolka's employment in the first place. if i mess up or forget something i ENCOURAGE people to correct me

23.12.2023 00:02:49
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KirstyD8
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Freethinkerland
23.12.2023 00:08:47
KirstyD8

I thought it was just with the SM's? Now with some SM's and plush? So is there 2? Because i was only aware of the 1 which i decided i didn't want to join.

Funny how you don't claim to have a screenshot of what plush said, like you do with everything else. After all yoou said you was told within the last few days.


23.12.2023 00:08:47
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AuntieLice
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Secville
23.12.2023 00:11:29
AuntieLice

princesspixie wrote:
I just want to say that Iowa seems to be bringing forward a lot of evidence to clarify issues and bring transparency, and to see y'all resp
onding hyper-focused on the tiniest of details that could be partially unclear (like one SM vs SMs plural) looks really silly. If something doesn't add up, can't we ask for further clarification instead of acting like someone was "caught" doing something? Are we not all trying to get on the same page? And Iowa is actively making corrections to anything that was explained wrong or without clarity. All the pettiness from fp doesn't come across great and I'm sorry if y'all feel like your authority and decision making is being questioned, but if you care about looking out for us that's going to include accepting criticism sometimes :/ Shout out to Iowa for still speaking up here despite how he's being treated by some of these replies

Or maybe people aren't bothered enough to be "transparent" with someone who's been banned multiple times and has made several Google documents, websites, subreddits and Discord servers dedicated to "taking down" the website owner, the PH staff and certain players they despise? Not sure what they/them are even doing on this website at this point after all of that, you would expect anyone to give up on the game that makes them this angry and emotional after all these years, but it looks like they adore the attention too much. Also, that person and their friends have been repeating the same shit for years now, who cares anymore? Lmao

23.12.2023 00:11:29
“Then two years ago, I became a public figure representing domestic abuse, and I felt the full force of our culture’s wrath for women who speak out.” -Amber Heard
Iowa
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Reasonopia
23.12.2023 00:30:39
Iowa

kirsty: yes there were two chats. one was an informal one with me, plush, and some current users, including SMs talking about what happened in the past. the second one was only me and SMs because it was intended to be a more official discussion with the PH but no one but the SMs joined. and here.


lillyann: i genuinely don't understand half of what you're talking about. i don't know what HLB has to do with any of this. i didn't ban her and neither did any of my friends, and we didn't force toki to ban her, that was her decision. we didn't 'target' her, she made inappropriate comments on the forums and was jailed CONSTANTLY.

also, you are misrepresenting things! again! i did not keep the fact that this was my second account a secret, and you guys did not stay silent about it until i became 'too much'. i REACHED OUT to dye on this account of my own volition to thank her for not banning me. we had a lovely conversation.
also, what i said were the jailing reasons i was given VERBATIM.

defamation is stating things that are known to be false in order to damage someone's reputation. i did not say anything on the subreddit or on here that was false. i did not personally attack you, i did not call you names, and i did not encourage other people to do so. i literally made it a rule on the subreddit to NOT do that and i removed comments that did. if you can find ONE EXAMPLE of me defaming you or 'inciting animosity' i would love to see it. or an example of me being a bully on the site. my entire forum post history as juggalo rights is still available to view. you're the one turning this into personal attacks, telling me to 'man up' and implying i don't have a life because i'm providing images i have saved on my computer.

i did not ask you for anything nor did i claim that you owe me something. i shared what doiiy shared, which showed that you banned them for not doing your dirty work and finding out who was on the subreddit because you didn't like the things people said about you on there.

the fact of the matter is i have proven and backed up almost EVERYTHING i have said, including in direct contradiction to your claims, and you have produced nothing. and you don't have to. no one is forcing you. but think about how that makes you look. you can't claim that you banned doiiy because they had alts, have me produce proof that you did not care about alts and were fine to let them have an alt if they told you who was on the subreddit, and then continue to claim that doiiy was banned because they had alts and say that you're not obligated to show proof of that and expect everyone to believe you. that's not how this works.

scroll back to my earlier posts and let it be known that i tried to go about this without putting specific people on blast. i did not want to name names or point out everyone who i believe has ever wronged me. but when people make claims that are demonstrably false i'm not going to sit idly by.

23.12.2023 00:30:39
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herbivore_princess
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Secville
23.12.2023 00:39:07
herbivore_princess

so, from what i understand a lot of this is crossed wires?

seems to me like a lot assumptions and he-said-she-said on both sides. if u guys don't mind, and let me know if i'm stepping out of line cause i know u guys have years of context which i lack—what would your ideal solutions to this miscommunication be? 

just trying to find a way to move this whole mess into a more productive direction x

23.12.2023 00:39:07

KirstyD8
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Freethinkerland
23.12.2023 00:41:35
KirstyD8

iowa "kirsty: yes there were two chats. one was an informal one with me, plush, and some current users, including SMs talking about what happened in the past. the second one was only me and SMs because it was intended to be a more official discussion with the PH but no one but the SMs joined"

Wow the whole thing is shady. I was told of 1 and that was because the SM's was curious and wanted to see what you had for evidence and that was all. And now some current users as well. Wow just wow. Talk about transparency. Yes only SM's wanted to join you.

The dynasty party did not wish to partake in it and we still dont.

23.12.2023 00:41:35
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Gemima1984
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Atheista
23.12.2023 00:42:31
Gemima1984

This is a dress up game. Doxxing, slander, trolling, it's all completely disproportionate. Moderators need to be firm and consistent in how they apply the rules and they should be professional in how they communicate when enforcing these rules to avoid further problems just like this down the line. It is also unfair and a little unrealistic on everybody involved to have somebody who has been personally targeted (doxxing, hacking, whatever the case is) be expected to be the individual to handle the situation. The court system is a unique and possibly a good way of managing this if it arises again.

It really sounds like the two parties should have a private conversation, with an impartial mediator where they can express what it is they actually want. This conversation has derailed into personal attacks and the additional trolling and input from others (including myself right now) isn't going to make things better. By all means, communicate the outcome after if needs be for the sake of transparency.

At the end of the day, shit is gonna hit the fan regardless in February. Chris doesn't care.

This isn't an endorsement of either side in this circus. I just think everybody is upsetting themselves and each other when really we all just want to be messing about dressing our dolls in silly outfits. It's just not worth it guys.

Much love to all involved, happy holidays and I hope everybody can take some time for themselves. You are all worthy of peace and relaxation. Be kind to yourselves.

23.12.2023 00:42:31
Iowa
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Reasonopia
23.12.2023 00:46:47
Iowa

KirstyD8 wrote:
iowa "kirsty: yes there were two chats. one was an informal one with me, plush, and some current users, including SMs talking about what happened in the past. the second one was only me and SMs because it was intended to be a more official discussion with the PH but no one but the SMs joined"

Wow the whole thing is shady. I was told of 1 and that was because the SM's was curious and wanted to see what you had for evidence and that was all. And now some current users as well. Wow just wow. Talk about transparency. Yes only SM's wanted to join you.

The dystnasty party did not wish to partake in it and we still dont.
why should you have been informed? the purpose was not to talk to you or about you. we also discussed contests going on on the site rn among plenty of other topics, should we have given you a heads up before doing that too?

also, good question herbivore princess, i would genuinely prefer to get back to that topic, because that's why i posted here. here are my thoughts.
1. if there is no evidence a banned player was banned for genuine reasons (e.g. cheating, phishing, repeated rule breaking) allow them the opportunity to come back
2. allow open criticism of the pink house and team bimbo outside of just threads chris makes. don't delete posts that point out a staff member is misgendering someone, for example.
3. have standardized rules and standardized procedures to give out punishments. keep a record of punishments that have been given to users. i've previously mentioned multiple ways this could be done; a strike system, tiers of offenses, etc. and give appropriate avenues for users to discuss or appeal their punishments. institute an appeal process, bring back court cases, whatever, just remove the 'FPs and the PH can punish anyone at any time at their own discretion and users are not allowed to publicly speak about the punishments with anyone but the people in power are under no obligation to tell them why they were punished or discuss it with them at all' dynamic.
4. instead of stretching and bending the rules to cover offenses make the rules as clear as they need to be. i've suggested this in the past but this to my knowledge has never happened.
5. don't punish users on-site for things said or done off-site unless it specifically compromises the website or other users, e.g. admitting to doxxing hacking or cheating, etc.

23.12.2023 00:46:47
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herbivore_princess
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Secville
23.12.2023 00:57:49
herbivore_princess

 those requests seem fair, at least from my pov

what does everyone else think?

23.12.2023 00:57:49

ButterfIy
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Secville
23.12.2023 03:18:18
ButterfIy

Iowa wrote:
KirstyD8 wrote:
iowa "kirsty: yes there were two chats. one was an informal one with me, plush, and some current users, including SMs talking about what happened in the past. the second one was only me and SMs because it was intended to be a more official discussion with the PH but no one but the SMs joined"

Wow the whole thing is shady. I was told of 1 and that was because the SM's was curious and wanted to see what you had for evidence and that was all. And now some current users as well. Wow just wow. Talk about transparency. Yes only SM's wanted to join you.

The dystnasty party did not wish to partake in it and we still dont.
why should you have been informed? the purpose was not to talk to you or about you. we also discussed contests going on on the site rn among plenty of other topics, should we have given you a heads up before doing that too?

also, good question herbivore princess, i would genuinely prefer to get back to that topic, because that's why i posted here. here are my thoughts.
1. if there is no evidence a banned player was banned for genuine reasons (e.g. cheating, phishing, repeated rule breaking) allow them the opportunity to come back
2. allow open criticism of the pink house and team bimbo outside of just threads chris makes. don't delete posts that point out a staff member is misgendering someone, for example.
3. have standardized rules and standardized procedures to give out punishments. keep a record of punishments that have been given to users. i've previously mentioned multiple ways this could be done; a strike system, tiers of offenses, etc. and give appropriate avenues for users to discuss or appeal their punishments. institute an appeal process, bring back court cases, whatever, just remove the 'FPs and the PH can punish anyone at any time at their own discretion and users are not allowed to publicly speak about the punishments with anyone but the people in power are under no obligation to tell them why they were punished or discuss it with them at all' dynamic.
4. instead of stretching and bending the rules to cover offenses make the rules as clear as they need to be. i've suggested this in the past but this to my knowledge has never happened.
5. don't punish users on-site for things said or done off-site unless it specifically compromises the website or other users, e.g. admitting to doxxing hacking or cheating, etc.
So Juggalo Rights is staying banned then, basically.

23.12.2023 03:18:18
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