Nice, now we are getting a bit closer towards transparency.
1. i never applied for any positions because i don't want to. that
doesn't contradict anything i'm saying. plushklavier did, she ran for PB
twice, and she was treated like absolute garbage for months and no
longer plays.
Well, it does contradict in some way. If you wanted some change why you didn't apply?
It easy to point fingers to people who actually contribute something to the site without never trying to actually do anything except to complain and start riots.
You are not Plushklavier. Where it came from she was treated badly? And what it exactly includes? She certainly wasn't treated bad because she ran for PB twice. She was also a forum mod for quite some time. Later she was SM. Does it contradict that PH is closed circle of people who are close to each others? I think it does.
2. the old discord server that lillyann is referencing was not my server
and i did not ask anyone to join it. it belonged to someone else who
posted about it on here with the permission of staff. the server existed
before the hacking and the hacker's discord account was created long
after the server. the two things are completely unrelated.
Like I said, we shared that server, not that you were its owner. Many BL players were on it.
We don't know if these two things are really completely unrelated.
'hacker's discord account was created long
after the server' - It could have been anyone from that server who created new account, right?
It just awakes bad associations, anywhere you and your friends were some trouble followed. And I just had enough of it.
3. the 'new server' is also not created by me. it is a group chat that
some SMs created to try to reconcile all the horror stories they're
hearing about things i did as juggalo rights and the experience they've
had actually talking to me. it was intended to get both sides of the
story. it is not a public server, it's a private group chat, and you're
not going to somehow get doxxed or something on it. it's just me, SMs,
and any other PH members who want to join. you should know this. i don't
know why you're bringing this up here.
Thanks for making it clear. It was never clear was it a server or a group message. Chris suggested PH members shouldn't join shady dark forums/chats and we talk about the transparency, that's why I am bringing it here.
I was already doxxed, what was available to be doxxed is already out there, so it's not like I have anything else to lose when it comes to that matter. I am just not up join. If you have something to tell me, BL inbox is open. Tho I am not sure you do since you haven't done it already. We had over a year for the talk yet you chose not to talk in the proper way but instead to create drama on reddit because creating drama in BL wasn't really welcome. So no, I am not joining any discord chat with you. I don't believe it won't be shared again with some third party.
When you came back with Iowa account you (and Torr as well) said you have changed, you were not up for creating drama again, being hostile, starting riots, undermining the game (not staff only, to make it clear) and so on. You were on reasonably good terms with PH and we trusted you. It didn't take long for old habits to be back. Why do you expect me or other players who witnessed it to trust you again?
4. i claimed earlier that i wasn't aware of someone using lillyann's
picture on the subreddit because i didn't remember, as it's been a while
and the incident itself was handled literally as soon as we noticed it
so it didn't stick out to me. i'm the one who messaged the person and
told them to remove it
Thanks for clearing this up. It's interesting you knew it was from LinkedIn. Even I didn't know that photo was on there and not only on facebook. Looks like you guys got really obsessive over me since you found all social networks I was on and knew what picture was taken from which one. Maybe you and your friends should address that issue, you already like addressing issues so why not cleaning the own mess first before you go out there to point fingers to others.
Interesting you forgot about the issue where you got personally involved to message that member and needed to jog a memory, right, but you do 'know in smallest details' what happened to other players... One thing to think about...
also if we're going to talk about the subreddit idk why we're glossing
over the fact i was jailed 3 times for participating and a user (doiiy,
if that is needed to jog anyone's memory) was banned for refusing to
share with the PH what users were on the subreddit.
You were jailed for breaking rules - forum stuff, sharing that sub in BL, slandering perhaps, flaming, maybe some other stuff... certainly not solely because you participated on that sub. Other players participated there as well yet big majority of them was never jailed, and many of them were never even forum banned. In ximbo.land you were taking on consequences solely for the things you were doing in ximbo.land.
doiiy - You don't need to jog my memory because for most part I know well what kind of talk I had with whom and what it was about. So Doiiy... She also had one or more alt accounts. That's why she was messaged in the first place. That was the warning where she was asked to pick one acc. and get rid of another one. She was not cooperating, instead she kind of attacked me with words like 'so, you are going to ban me yada yada' and so on. Sorry, but not sorry, if someone is at fault they are not really in the position to give some s***ty attitude. True, I asked her about reddit but she got banned because of alts, not dealing with them in a proper time manner, not giving any answer related to alts and dealing with it but instead started telling me I do this I do that. Wondering why I actually used to ask people to deal with their alts on their own, to pick which account they want to keep, I could just ban the rest and keep their highest level account and call it a day instead of wasting time to message everyone and as a response getting some childish-like rebellious answers.
Wondering if she ever talked about the alt/s? Also wondering, if she ever talked about remaking account? Because she did come back, even joined one of my contests, played for a while and left.
There were people coming talking about being banned, but never told you that they were minors or alts. No, it was more interesting to not give the real reason. And then you guys were making stories that players got banned if their pronounces were listed in bios or sigs because PH is very homophobic and transphobic. Or, that they were banned because they talked about their mental issues and PH is very ableist. And that's called slandering, twisting info in a malicious way to harm the reputation of someone or something. This way, you were harming the reputation of the game too, not only of players who were part of PH at the time. So much about how much do you guys like this game :/
so here's the interaction i'm talking about. for some context: this
person's account was lei x. marrq is coder mariolka (as far as i'm aware
he's not in chris's direct employ? i don't know the full details) they
were in the old discord server that lillyann mentioned. (...) if anyone has any questions about this situation please let me know.
"as far as i'm aware
he's not in chris's direct employ?" Interesting. Is it for real?? Looks like you have more info on admins even when being inactive for months than we do who are here every day. Did you read it on reddit too?
