i have a friend who contacted a member of team bimbo directly and were treated very poorly :[ i'm so glad you got your account back though

Miss Bimbo wrote:

My take on the above situation is that if a real Bimbo (Lets say level 35 ) doxxed someone here (not on other sites) then they should be warned and punished and thrown into jail time and again. But never executed because the crime is not bad enough to warrant that.
They are not threatening violence and are not hacking. 
However if they then set up  an alt acccount (level 1) to do that again because their other Bimbo is in jail then 'bosh' thats easy to spot so chop their head off straight away. They are just a spammer at that point. Easy decision. Bosh - execute.
But their initial real account should not be executed. Just sent to jail until they learn. 

They are threatening violence. That is the point of doxxing. To imply power over the person and the threat of harm by spreading personal information, which has the potential to lead people to you irl or to take advantage of you (by blackmail, for instance).

Imagine someone here posted your full name and address here and signed it off with "You know what to do my British friends ;D". Would their intention not be to incite and inspire people into harassing you into real life, threatening actual harm on you? And you want them to just be slapped on the wrist

Iowa wrote:

1. genuinely, what reason would i have to come up with such an elaborate lie? if all i wanted to do was make the PH look bad why would i come back on a second account and not speak about any of this until now? surely there would've been many more opportunities before this? chris's email is out there, i could've contacted him directly about any of this. i also haven't been an active player for months and only came back because someone told me about this thread. this thread is the first time i've spoken about any of this openly because i'm much more confident that i won't be punished for saying it and i think it is constructive if we're talking about improving the site. what you're proposing makes no sense. i'm also not sure if the 'fellow misunderstood souls' comment refers to me or my friends but i'm literally a gay socialist and i've also criticized team bimbo, including chris, plenty of times in the past. i'm not asking chris to completely take over the site, i'm asking for changes to rules and how rules are enforced.

2. i understand being skeptical but proof of everything i'm saying has been passed along to chris. i have not felt the need to post screenshots here (aside from the subreddit because butterfly was straight up lying about its content or purpose) because the screenshots incriminate people who are still active players and it is not at all my desire to form some kind of public hit list of people i think have wronged me. but i literally have an entire document where i compiled all of this. if push comes to shove i might post it but i would much rather not do that and try the diplomatic route.

3. even if you don't believe i'm innocent, anyone who's been around for a while will remember the whole 'hacking' fiasco where the site was vandalized and a bunch of players were banned. they were told they would have their accounts back but i'm not aware of anyone who actually got theirs back. those people are demonstrably innocent.

I wasn't talking about you specifically or calling you a liar. (Sorry if it came across as overly accusatory.) Yes, I used your and B's spat earlier as a starting point for describing the mentality that I think is behind at least some of these people e-mailing Chris. As for why someone would do something like that just out of spite. Idk. Why do people key their ex's car? Why do politicians defame the opposition in debated? It might seem like a lot of effort to you but I don't really think so

That being said, I'm not claiming you are making it all up (or that no wrongs have ever been comited on PH's part). You could fully believe what you see. Hell, you could even be right about parts of it (I don't know the details of your case) - though it seems you read more malice into things than is necessarily there. For instance, you seem to be under the impression that PH decided who was and who wasn't unbanned after the September hacking incident. That is not the case. Only Sachem has the ability to unban people and the PH can't influence whether they do or not. Now, the PH did do their best to gather the names of those affected and forward them, which was the extent of their role in that incident. Suppose you could still make the case that they didn't forward your friends information or something, but that strikes me as odd considering that all the people I know to have been banned then were unbanned for sure (see pages 1477-1484 of this thread for example: ediblegoats, alexapro, morguegirl, and gemina1984 got banned, made temporary alts, then got unbanned and returned to their regular BL use). You seem to imply that there was some kind of targeting towards you and your friends on the PH's part, but I'm not sure you're familiar enough with how the PH works and what it does to make that claim.

Also, not sure what you mean by "what I am proposing". Wasn't aware I was. I do agree with you that it could be useful to clarify reasons for bannings and such to avoid confusion and the impression that people are being banned over nothing. As of right now, the reason PH writes down for bans doesn't always reach the banned party and as it is between those two parties, it is easy to misrepresent the facts on both accounts. For a while I was entertaining the thought of the ban page including a link to a reason for the ban and/or evidence of wrongdoing, but idk, this also seems like it might violate users' privacy in some cases

thank you for the clarification and i'm sorry that i misunderstood parts of your post. by "proposing" i meant the series of events that would be involved with me coming up with a big lie, that's all. i'm genuinely glad to learn that multiple people got their accounts back however that didn't happen for multiple people i know including one person who directly messaged a member of team bimbo and was told that they weren't going to reinstate her account because they "don't give a fuck" :[

Muffy Mynxxx wrote:

Miss Bimbo wrote:

Lord knows I have to do the same and you all actually know my real name - half the words of this thread are annoying and hurty to me but I just have to get on and accept it.
You guys are all anonymous people hiding behind alternative bimbo characters so how can you claim to be bothered by hurty words when they are directed at make believe Bimbo profiles?   

Because there are some people in this community who hunt down personal information about others, including pictures, to use against them as cited previously. That’s what people are “scared to speak up” for. These same people have also encouraged eating disorders relentlessly, which I would definitely consider to be akin to “inciting others to violence” albeit in a roundabout way. It’s pretty much encouraging suicide and they know full well what they’re doing. 

These people have been thrown into jail and forum banned innumerable times but it has only made the issue worse. I’m sure you’ve been contacted about them multiple times over the years. Isn’t it also the job of the President to step in and protect their citizens? No PB has taken care of this problem effectively in the past. 

You've already skinny-shamed me several times and you're friends with people who made disgusting jokes about my anorexia. That's some harmful killer shit right there. Apologize to me and move on.

Does the free speech feel good? Is it invigorating? 

Marie Hilton wrote:

It is stil crazy to see how you dont understand doxxing; it isnt just people telling mean words about yourself it's greater than that.
Have ever been doxxed ? And do you understand doxxing? Here's my story
When I was young someone found my adress and full name + age, they proceeded to take this and post it in forums with signs that I am down for anything.

Why can't we prove that it happens on site?
Because first, you are never on the site and second thoses doxxers/bullies are sneaky and gets off the site before it's taken care of.

To imagine the experience of the Bimbos doxxed on this site and put you in perspective of how its done in BL;
 the bullying starts in messages,
then in comments, you delete them,
the message you get next is telling u you'e a bith and a coward bc you deleted the comments-
then you discover a subreddit abt the game, you see your avatar name being dragged thru the mud-
and then your heart drops and you see your real name and photo
you report and the person gets banned but get better at hiding their name in the subreddit so you cant block the alt.


It is not because it's not on your site that its not because of Bimboland. We shouldnt put the bimbos in jail, we should continue to ban them plain simple.
If you are attacking someone from bimboland on other sites that are not indicated on their profile you are actively trying to bully and dox them.
Who says when they're tired with their victim, its next to the other? Are you ready to possibly host serial doxxers and expose your large community to venom because you think if you continue to jail they'll stop

Ok lets dig into this a bit deeper shall we. 
Firstly you cant prove it because the PB/PH did their job correctly and removed the offending content. So well done Ximboland - we are doing something right. 
Secondly - 'when I was young'? Well thats noting to do with us here at Ximboland so its irrelevant to this place.
Thirdly somebody calls you a name here. Ok sorry to hear that - please report it and block the person. 
Fourthly - no you don't discover murky dark and depressing sub forums. Unless you are seeking drama yourself. If you are not you just rise above them and ignore them. You do not report a reddit post to any PH members on Ximboland because that is not our property and we can do nothing about it. Its as silly as reporting to fakebook something written here by one of their users. 

A message to our PB and PH - you have to rise above sub forums and 'other' sites. They are not our business and it is not your duty to police them. If anyone reports anything from these sites then you simply have to say 'sorry please contact the admin of those sites. There is nothing we can do.' And also if you are a PH member then you really should not be lurking on these seedy sub forums. You are better than that. You are setting a bad example - you need to be better than that and not lower yourself. You are bringing Ximboland into disrepute by appearing on those seedy unofficial sites.
I have asked Karol to create a private sub forum here for Pink House members only so there is no need to communicate off this site at all. 


A message to all Ximbos - if you sign up to silly Ximboland subforums and servers then they are NOT official Ximboland run sites. We can not and will not protect you on those sites. They are subject to different rules and regs. So do not sign up to them. Avoid them at all costs.  

Iowa wrote:

thank you for the clarification and i'm sorry that i misunderstood parts of your post. by "proposing" i meant the series of events that would be involved with me coming up with a big lie, that's all. i'm genuinely glad to learn that multiple people got their accounts back however that didn't happen for multiple people i know including one person who directly messaged a member of team bimbo and was told that they weren't going to reinstate her account because they "don't give a fuck" :[

Is that right? Can you share with me please who wrote that 

AuntieLice wrote:

Muffy Mynxxx wrote:

Miss Bimbo wrote:

Lord knows I have to do the same and you all actually know my real name - half the words of this thread are annoying and hurty to me but I just have to get on and accept it.
You guys are all anonymous people hiding behind alternative bimbo characters so how can you claim to be bothered by hurty words when they are directed at make believe Bimbo profiles?   

Because there are some people in this community who hunt down personal information about others, including pictures, to use against them as cited previously. That’s what people are “scared to speak up” for. These same people have also encouraged eating disorders relentlessly, which I would definitely consider to be akin to “inciting others to violence” albeit in a roundabout way. It’s pretty much encouraging suicide and they know full well what they’re doing. 

These people have been thrown into jail and forum banned innumerable times but it has only made the issue worse. I’m sure you’ve been contacted about them multiple times over the years. Isn’t it also the job of the President to step in and protect their citizens? No PB has taken care of this problem effectively in the past. 

You've already skinny-shamed me several times and you're friends with people who made disgusting jokes about my anorexia. That's some harmful killer shit right there. Apologize to me and move on.

Skinny shamed? This is a good example of the type of stuff that is largely nonsense but at the same time has to be tolerated. If this person wants to believe there is such a thing as skinny shamed then so be it. The rest of us simply have to put up with such nonsense and argue against it rationally and thoughtfully. Or ignore it of course. 

Suiteheartdolly wrote:

Does the free speech feel good? Is it invigorating? 

yes and yes 

Melpomene wrote:

Miss Bimbo wrote:

My take on the above situation is that if a real Bimbo (Lets say level 35 ) doxxed someone here (not on other sites) then they should be warned and punished and thrown into jail time and again. But never executed because the crime is not bad enough to warrant that.
They are not threatening violence and are not hacking. 
However if they then set up  an alt acccount (level 1) to do that again because their other Bimbo is in jail then 'bosh' thats easy to spot so chop their head off straight away. They are just a spammer at that point. Easy decision. Bosh - execute.
But their initial real account should not be executed. Just sent to jail until they learn. 

They are threatening violence. That is the point of doxxing. To imply power over the person and the threat of harm by spreading personal information, which has the potential to lead people to you irl or to take advantage of you (by blackmail, for instance).

Imagine someone here posted your full name and address here and signed it off with "You know what to do my British friends ;D". Would their intention not be to incite and inspire people into harassing you into real life, threatening actual harm on you? And you want them to just be slapped on the wrist

Doxxing on other sites is not our problem.
On this site you use a Bimbo name and any personal information is absolutely limited.
So we do NOT have any way for anyone to doxx anyone on our site. If you share your details with others on silly forums then thats your risk and your error. Dont sign up to silly subforums ort share your personal information with anyone. Thats common sense. 
And then doxxing cant happen can it?
And if it does happen on our site it will be dealt with and removed quickly but the info was not gathered from our site. And any idiot doing that will be thrown into jail if they are a proper bimbo and quickly executed if they are a spammer.