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Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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01.12.2023
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Miss Bimbo
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Reasonopia
18.12.2023 01:25:46
Iowa

KirstyD8 wrote:
"it's admitting that mistakes were made and people were hurt by them and trying to make amends."
Who needs to make amends?

"even if banned players are allowed to stay on a new account it is still unfair to force them to start over"
But it's okay to force people on this site in dealing with banned players getting unbanned?

"undoing those bans is reparative justice."
What about the justice for players on here that was effected by the banned players?
if someone was banned for egregiously breaking rules (and i can remember very few instances of that actually happening, considering it was well-established that pineconeupmyass cheated and wasn't banned) then they shouldn't be brought back and i'm not suggesting that they should. i'm talking about the person who was banned after saying that they contacted PEGI about this site's age rating, or the person who was banned after saying they wouldn't tell site staff which users were criticizing them on reddit, or the people who were banned during the "hacking" incident who were told they would have their accounts restored and never did, or the person who was banned after arguing with site staff on discord who continued to be charged for their senatorship for multiple months until they contacted paypal directly to have their subscription annulled, or me and all of my friends who were mysteriously banned at the exact same time including one person who literally did not post on the forums, with no known rules being broken, without ever being told why they were banned, who were repeatedly rebuffed and blocked by staff when we asked, or the person who was banned after pointing out a member of staff was calling people the r slur on discord, and those are just the individuals i remember off the top of my head. what damages did they cause? who did they hurt? are you really going to try to tell me that every single person who's ever been banned off this site was banned for completely fair and legitimate reasons when i literally have evidence to the contrary?

i was banned. i didn't do anything. i should know. i didn't cheat, i didn't try to rig elections, i didn't embezzle diamonds or whatever the hell pinecone did, i can count on one hand the amount of times i ever got any sort of punishment, and one of those times was for saying a site staff member was being transphobic. i literally directly asked what i did and got no answer.

18.12.2023 01:25:46
✖ he/him pronouns ✖ chris/sweetasnuts doesnt care about this game
KatieBoutique
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18.12.2023 05:24:00
KatieBoutique

Thanks for creating all your games Chris.  I’m here because I like this one a lot.  It’s a creative dream come true for me, I’m not going to leave, I’ll continue renewing my yearly Senator Subscription, and Katie and Slayto are gonna keep up their antics in Katie’s Ximboland Diary…soon to expand to YouTube shorts of The Slayyycast.  You want news?  KSLA has you covered.

See you around town…

18.12.2023 05:24:00

Miss Bimbo
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18.12.2023 10:34:34
Miss Bimbo

mushio wrote:
Came to this site recently on recommendations bc it seemed decently fleshed out as an avatar dress up game with fun forums. Absolutely never coming back now that Ive seen this absolute power trip travesty. Its a sexualised fun take an on old misogynistic stereotype and you're trying to turn it into a serious, actual political space? And don't understand why more right leaning opinion havers aren't coming to the sexualised, sex toy using bimbo dress up doll site? You're emulating Musk, do you think Musk would want to join here?

Anyways, good luck to those that remain, xoxo drink water and what not

Edit: And theres a feature where people see you block them and give a reason? Goofy
No I think Musk would say this place is too left leaning and there is far too much censorship going on. 
But anyway I dont want to copy what he is doing. I think we have the chance to be unique in that we can become the worlds first democratic social media platform that has different rules and different levels of censorship under different governments for example Blecky maybe be more right leaning and allow more than the previous prime Ximbo etc etc  
The next Prime Bimbo may then do this and the next do that etc etc

I am trying to create a platform that encourages democracy and the safe transition of power from one regime to another which would mean our site changes constantly over the course of history and over the course of different governments. One min we may be right leaning and the next left leaning etc etc (like normal society?) 

18.12.2023 10:34:34

Miss Bimbo
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18.12.2023 10:56:09
Miss Bimbo

KatieBoutique wrote:
Let's say Chris were to find a buyer.  
What conditions would you put on that transaction?
Would you demand to see all the details of that transaction?
Would a new buyer be enough?
What are the characteristics that this new buyer would need to have?
Let's say that buyer was a current player who knew the game well.
What demands, if any, would you make to that person/player/buyer?

You want to get rid of Chris.
At what point, and under what conditions, will you demand the same of a new owner?

There are 50 people on this thread.  
There are 450 people out in Ximboland playing the game.
None of those 450 came here for threads like this.
One of them is leaving, because of this thread.

What lays in store for the next owner...if there is one?
Chris would like to retire.  But he can't...if a new buyer doesn't appear.
I just had a look at analytics. There are between 10 and 30k active Bimbos whom log in during the course of a month

18.12.2023 10:56:09

Miss Bimbo
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18.12.2023 11:02:10
Miss Bimbo

KatieBoutique wrote:
Chris wants to retire.  The game is for sale.  I’m the willing buyer.

I want everyone who has posted on this thread to answer those questions.
Thanks for your interest. I should have thought o advertise here in teh first place actually as that solves one major problem ie ensuring that teh next owner understand and respects the history of Ximboland and does not tinker with it 'too much'.
That said I have taken it off the market for now as I want to get stuck in and make some changes and see where that takes us. I am not saying its not for sale forever but just not right now.
Also and  for full transparency I am not the only shareholder. Karol (Sachim) the developer is also a shareholder. 

Thanks for your kind interest though KatieBoutique.
It has opened up a new idea of allowing Ximbos to actually invest in owning some part of Ximboland. Perhaps this is what the term 'Ximbo' could actually be used for ? Real life super Bimbos who have personally invested in Ximboland?

18.12.2023 11:02:10

Gemima1984
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Atheista
18.12.2023 11:45:19
Gemima1984

Hi Chris, I must confess I'm just really struggling to follow now because one moment you're stating what should and shouldn't be a bannable offense and the next you're stating that would be the responsibility of the Prime Bimbo. A number of issues have been raised and I'm not really sure if any of them will be addressed. I'm also concerned over the impact of the site drastically changing every 3 months and the effects that will have on the userbase and general activity.

I think it would be very beneficial to have a clearly written up list of roles and responsibilities. What are decisions which are solely yours to make and what are decisions which fall to the Prime Bimbo? What is the Prime Bimbo responsible for and which changes are permissable for them to make each term? There appears to be some vagueness to this as you're wishing to overrule Prime Bimbo one minute then wanting to empower them to do as they please the next so some clearly written responsibilities would be helpful.



18.12.2023 11:45:19
Miss Bimbo
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18.12.2023 13:05:43
Miss Bimbo

halobear8 wrote:
Miss Bimbo wrote:
2. Will this be a paid position?
Yes perhaps a split of teh PB takings should go to the Chief Justice BImbo eg 20% 
What do you think?

That's honestly not fair to the PB for being paid even more below minimum wage for a job that takes so much time and energy. 



Ok this issue needs to be addressed. The PB is not a 'paid job'. Its a volunteer role. Does anyone  remember Miss Bimbno? Our forums were 'moderated' by volunteers. So the first thing to highlight is that its quite possible to find volunteers whom will /moderate forums for free. We did that for many years and reddit etc have done that successfully for years. So can we please stop describing this is a job.
Now onto the role of Prime Bimbo. I don't see this as a 'job'. I see it as a privilege afforded to the most popular person in our community. I see it as a role bestowed upon teh person whom is generally regarded as the most popular and most reasonable person in our society. That is what it should be. Now as opposed to asking them to volunteer to be PB then I had the idea of sharing some of the sites revenues with the PB in the expectation this will motivate an unite the Ximbo community. That why when people describe this as a job or a 'salary' i feel annoyed. Karol has asked me a few times why we give this money away when its clearly not appreciated and he has a point. I don't see anyone appreciate this generosity or uniqueness - we could simply ask for  a volunteer and pay ourselves that money.  

My ideas was to share some revenues with the PB in teh hope or expectation that that would motivate the PB and teh community to realise that figure they received from the treasury is inextricably tied to how much we take . Therefore I had hoped that would motivate the community to help generate more revenue for themselves and for teh community/us/PB. I hoped it would be a win-win-win but that has not happened. And so we must review this becvause its being taken for granted and even beyond that - abused and ridiculed.












18.12.2023 13:05:43

Miss Bimbo
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18.12.2023 13:06:41
Miss Bimbo

halobear8 wrote:
KatieBoutique wrote:
Add a “Bimboland Politics” category to the Ximbo Citizens section of the forum.  Put it below “Bimboland Theater”.
Make sure it says “Bimboland Politics” and not just “Politics”.  



If Miss Bimbo wants to steer the focus of this game more towards politics than dress up, then that is the simplest and most logical place to test drive that.  

No thanks, I'd rather wait until it's approved by Chris so when shit hits the fan I'm not the one to blame. Additionally, the reason I didn't include it in the forums already, despite knowing full well that I could've, is because that's not the format I personally would want for it.
Agreed - there should be somewhere clear for politics and Ximbos manifestos etc 


18.12.2023 13:06:41

Gemima1984
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18.12.2023 13:21:26
Gemima1984

Miss Bimbo wrote:
halobear8 wrote:
Miss Bimbo wrote:
2. Will this be a paid position?
Yes perhaps a split of teh PB takings should go to the Chief Justice BImbo eg 20% 
What do you think?

That's honestly not fair to the PB for being paid even more below minimum wage for a job that takes so much time and energy. 



Ok this issue needs to be addressed. The PB is not a 'paid job'. Its a volunteer role. Does anyone  remember Miss Bimbno? Our forums were 'moderated' by volunteers. So the first thing to highlight is that its quite possible to find volunteers whom will /moderate forums for free. We did that for many years and reddit etc have done that successfully for years. So can we please stop describing this is a job.
Now onto the role of Prime Bimbo. I don't see this as a 'job'. I see it as a privilege afforded to the most popular person in our community. I see it as a role bestowed upon teh person whom is generally regarded as the most popular and most reasonable person in our society. That is what it should be. Now as opposed to asking them to volunteer to be PB then I had the idea of sharing some of the sites revenues with the PB in the expectation this will motivate an unite the Ximbo community. That why when people describe this as a job or a 'salary' i feel annoyed. Karol has asked me a few times why we give this money away when its clearly not appreciated and he has a point. I don't see anyone appreciate this generosity or uniqueness - we could simply ask for  a volunteer and pay ourselves that money.  

My ideas was to share some revenues with the PB in teh hope or expectation that that would motivate the PB and teh community to realise that figure they received from the treasury is inextricably tied to how much we take . Therefore I had hoped that would motivate the community to help generate more revenue for themselves and for teh community/us/PB. I hoped it would be a win-win-win but that has not happened. And so we must review this becvause its being taken for granted and even beyond that - abused and ridiculed.











Hi Chris, I wholeheartedly agree with you that you are taking the Prime Bimbo for granted and abusing, ridiculing and also exploiting the position. You allow somebody else to do the bulk of the work, blame them for your own website's shortcomings and then pay them below minimum wage.

I hope you do engage with the userbase to identify just why your site revenue hasn't further grown. I very much suspect that the things that would make people more willing to spend money on the game are things not within the Prime Bimbo's power (new features and a more functional, less buggy website for instance).

Until you've done research and ascertained why, it's perhaps a little early to attribute blame on the Prime Bimbo.

18.12.2023 13:21:26
Miss Bimbo
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bimbo-city
18.12.2023 13:34:17
Miss Bimbo

Ok - so do you suggest I just  take the PB job back in house then and do it myself and pay that money to Karol and I?

18.12.2023 13:34:17

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