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Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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01.12.2023
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KatieBoutique
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Secville
14.12.2023 18:07:08
KatieBoutique

Chris wants to retire.  The game is for sale.  I’m the willing buyer.

I want everyone who has posted on this thread to answer those questions.

14.12.2023 18:07:08

Iowa
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Reasonopia
14.12.2023 19:18:38
Iowa

didn't he say he delisted the site though..?

also i agree that the chief justice person thing being reserved for former PBs/PH members wouldn't be good for combating biases. minus the SMs the pink house has been pretty much the same cast of characters for a couple years now. it would be better for the job to go to someone more independent/unaffiliated

14.12.2023 19:18:38
✖ he/him pronouns ✖ chris/sweetasnuts doesnt care about this game
bxdcherri
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Reasonopia
14.12.2023 19:23:55
bxdcherri

I'm looking at this is a customer service POV. We aren't demanding a new owner, I don't think that's been said, however, we do pay for a service. I think the thread demonstrates that the player base is unhappy with these changes.

Imagine going to your favorite restaurant and ordering your favorite meal. Then the waiter starts adding loads of things to your order that you simply DO NOT WANT. And then they say something like "I believe this is a good idea, we will just have to agree to disagree" and then orders you all this food you didn't even want in the first place.

14.12.2023 19:23:55

halobear8
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14.12.2023 19:39:18
halobear8

Miss Bimbo wrote:
2. Will this be a paid position?
Yes perhaps a split of teh PB takings should go to the Chief Justice BImbo eg 20% 
What do you think?

That's honestly not fair to the PB for being paid even more below minimum wage for a job that takes so much time and energy. 

B) Opening up elections
1. What vetting of the candidates will occur? At present we are very limited in who can stand but the candidates can at least demonstrate commitment to the game through their work as state minister.
In my view it should be 3 months as a senator and that is enough

But you have to be a senator for 6 consecutive months to get the silver achievement badge...


C) Allowing alts
1. You've mentioned cheating for Prime Bimbo election will be minimised by the upper level for voter eligibility. What will be done to prevent cheating in fashion fights, contests, debates? This would defeat the point of the game for me, there's no point in playing the game and taking part if the winners are people cheating the game. You only need 5 votes to win a fashion fight.
2. If the game is flooded with cheaters, will this be the community you were hoping to create?

Yes this part is something I have not thought about. So please share your suggestions. If we allow alt accounts what would be the effect on the 
a) fashion fights?
b) contests?
c) debates?
What other point would an alt serve as? For extra customization? As a pet project account? We can have different outfits, that should satisfy the need for different characters/ ideas. At this point just give us the pets and houses some of us have asked for.

D) Clemency for banned accounts
1. What support will you be offering to the Fashion police and Pink House staff regards to managing the website?
Well the first thing for me to appreciate and recognise is that the ex PBs, fashion police etc have done a great job and done what has been asked of them in the circumstances they were appointed. Whatever way we look at - this democracy runs on trust.  And that will remain. At the end of  the day I have trust in the PB and their team and we all have to trust the Pb and their team. When push comes to shove they have to make difficulty decisions and sometimes they make errors or are guided by biases. We all have to hope that these new checks and balances - MissBimbo (me) our constitution a chief judge Bimbo, an open free speech valued society will be enough to guide the PB and keep them inline with enough support. 
But ultimately the power lies with teh PB . It is them that ultimately create teh environment and have the power to throw people in jail/exile people. I am minded to offer clemency to those people whom are clear Bimbo patriots. But ultimately it is those people whom will have to come back to the fold and abide by teh laws that the Prime Bimbo puts in place. If they break teh laws then they will get throw into jail again. This time though we will have an independent chief Justice Bimbo and the eyes of society watching everything and so no one will be jailed for hurty words and no real Ximbos will be exiled. Jail should suffice. The word 'permabanned' or 'exiled' are misleading because a perma ban is an execution. The Ximbo is summarily executed right when they are permabanned. Soi we should use the term as it is and stop sugar coating things.
The same when a Ximbo commits Ximbo suicide. I have never understood the argument that we should not use that term simply because those hurty words bother some people. We have to call it what it is - when someone deletes their account they are committing Bimbo suicide. And it should be called that. 
NOT THE "HURTY WORDS" LMFAO. I'd like for it to be called "bimbo suicide" not just "committing suicide" still. 
2. Are you happy for harmful content to he posted on your forums? Stuff that may very well get you in legal trouble?
This should be up to the democratically elected prime Bimbo. Its not up to me.
If I were PB then I would be saying - if its ok on Twitter then it should be ok on Ximboland would be my guide. We are an adult site afterall. We are not facebook. But this is something that makes us unique and can make our site special. We are democratically elected and therefore we can have censorship like facebook (leftist) or censorship like Twitter (rightist). That will be up to you to decide
Why can't it just be regular censorship that you'd expect from the government? If you went about it like either of the sites you mentioned, your userbase's mental health would drastically decrease. Both those sites were proven to put forward posts that would incite the most controversy. We're trying to be an internet republic, right? Then why do you want it to instead be a site where trolls flock? Does that at all seem constructive to democracy to you?

And finally, you mention transitioning the website into a social media website:
1. What improvements will be made to the current social features on the site? The forum is very hard to use on mobile.
So make an app that can be used for Ximboland that looks like a social media app, don't bastardize the entire republic.

14.12.2023 19:39:18
 ♡ ¡ like the forum posts ! ♡
halobear8
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14.12.2023 20:01:32
halobear8

KatieBoutique wrote:
Add a “Bimboland Politics” category to the Ximbo Citizens section of the forum.  Put it below “Bimboland Theater”.
Make sure it says “Bimboland Politics” and not just “Politics”.  



If Miss Bimbo wants to steer the focus of this game more towards politics than dress up, then that is the simplest and most logical place to test drive that.  

No thanks, I'd rather wait until it's approved by Chris so when shit hits the fan I'm not the one to blame. Additionally, the reason I didn't include it in the forums already, despite knowing full well that I could've, is because that's not the format I personally would want for it.


14.12.2023 20:01:32
 ♡ ¡ like the forum posts ! ♡
bxdcherri
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14.12.2023 21:25:16
bxdcherri

We can't add forums topics to that page as SMs, but we can go into each subcategory and create them. I think what Katie is asking for here is a brand new topic.

14.12.2023 21:25:16

KatieBoutique
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14.12.2023 21:40:14
KatieBoutique

halobear8 wrote:
Okay, fine, I might run for Prime Ximbo when elected as State Minister. What's holding people back is that this website is not very political. I mean, we're a fucking internet republic, at baseline we're political. A step in the more political direction would include controversial debate topics. You say you lean towards the right and value freedom of speech in an Elon Muskeque type way, then facilitate conversation/debates surrounding abortion, gay rights, trans rights, immigration, war, corporations. If insinuating the idea of freer speech doesn't scare you, then neither should implementing it.
I've noticed a lot of people come on here to "play a dress up game," + I despise that notion.
Take yourself to Everskies or Stardoll or IMVU. You're part of an internet republic, don't take it for granted just because it's yassified and colored pink.  <end quote>
I'm confused.  I thought of all people you and Polly would love this idea.
You despise the notion that people come here for the game...instead of politics.
I bet Chris likes the idea too.

You imply you have the access and and skills to create the new category.
So should Chris and Sachem.

I'm waiting to see what happens to this simple request.  Your "no thanks" is just one vote.
Let's vote on all this.

New owner - yes or no
New Politics Forum topic - yes or no

The voting problem is already solved.  There will be plenty of SMs running.
The politics problem is already solved...if the new category is created.
Chris.  Go in and create the category yourself, if you like it.
No one else is going to do it.  Oh yeah...vote first.

So...new owner...me?  Or Chris stays.  That's now the big topic here.
Call for a vote of all citizens.  Let them decide.


14.12.2023 21:40:14

Honey Beee
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14.12.2023 22:26:41
Honey Beee

I vote no to both thanks

14.12.2023 22:26:41

Blecky89
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14.12.2023 22:29:21
Blecky89

No one from PH who are players can't add forum categories. That can be done by admins/coders only. 

New owner - No 
New Politics Forum topic - Yes if people can stay civilized in there and respect each others differences in opinions. 

14.12.2023 22:29:21
    
KatieBoutique
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14.12.2023 23:03:19
KatieBoutique

Good.  That's two votes so far.  Thanks to both of you. 

14.12.2023 23:03:19

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