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Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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01.12.2023
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Miss Bimbo
Miss Bimbo
Level 36
Status: President
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Posts: 286
bimbo-city
12.12.2023 17:35:53
Miss Bimbo

I put it to you that the current standing Prime Bimbos standing unopposed is as much an example of rigging an election as having alts ever will be. Yet no one here has pointed that out at all as far as I can see ? 

How can an unopposed election be anything but a rigged win for the incumbent? 

12.12.2023 17:35:53

Honey Beee
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Secville
12.12.2023 17:39:11
Honey Beee

I’m just curious to know why are we equating “default” to “rigged” and why having the current prime bimbo be elected by default a failure of democracy? There are many lovely ximbos that want to run for pb in the future and would like to have their terms respected for the “norm” of 3 terms each as I have experienced on the site. I feel like we should respect each PB’s rule and allow them to have their usual 3 terms, otherwise I feel like this undermines the PB and the PH… those are just my thoughts on this

12.12.2023 17:39:11

Miss Bimbo
Level 36
Status: President
Sex Appeal: 35169
Reputation: 40876
Posts: 286
bimbo-city
12.12.2023 17:40:16
Miss Bimbo

It seems everyone is very quick to shoot down my solutions to problems that are clear but I dont see anyone holding to account the existing government and problems we face ie undemocratic elections/loyal bimbos banned for life.

The only solutions i hear back are lazy solutions like - 
'pay the PB more'

The reality is we have passed through the stage of 'early democracy' and we must now evolve as we become a better and more mature democracy 

12.12.2023 17:40:16

Miss Bimbo
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Status: President
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Posts: 286
bimbo-city
12.12.2023 17:42:13
Miss Bimbo

Honey Beee wrote:
I’m just curious to know why are we equating “default” to “rigged” and why having the current prime bimbo be elected by default a failure of democracy? There are many lovely ximbos that want to run for pb in the future and would like to have their terms respected for the “norm” of 3 terms each as I have experienced on the site. I feel like we should respect each PB’s rule and allow them to have their usual 3 terms, otherwise I feel like this undermines the PB and the PH… those are just my thoughts on this
This just shows how far democracy has  fallen. There is noting that states PBs deserve or should have 3 terms. Why do you believe this? The best person should win regardless of if its 1 or 2 or 3 terms. 

12.12.2023 17:42:13

Gemima1984
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Atheista
12.12.2023 17:51:31
Gemima1984

Bit rich of you to drop the word lazy whilst you rake in like a grand a month for fuck all work whilst everyone else runs your website, dude.

12.12.2023 17:51:31
KirstyD8
Level 156
Status: Senator
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Freethinkerland
12.12.2023 17:53:32
KirstyD8

Hurty words? What are we 5?

In Ximboland jurisdiction? So you don't think players on this site shouldn't be protected from other players who they got introduced to them on this site and then decided to stalked and harrassed them on other platforms just because it's not all on this site. Yet players wouldn't have to deal with it if they didn't meet them on Ximboland first?

Many people in this thread has given you alot of legit reasons not to unban people and your not listening because you have your own agenda and not caring what will happen to the communtity on this site. You are clearly deflecting everything anyone has to say on the matter, looking for reason to bring them back. So Why don't you stop beating aroung the bush and the charade about it and just do it because you clearly want to. With that this community will turn negative and you will lose alot of players.
So many are already talking about leaving if this happens. People come on here to unwind and relax not to be harrassed, stalked or bullied.

"Then on top of that we have an issue with the existing government having a natural inclination or bias towards those people they like and therefore having the fashion police actually police the opposition to the potential downfall of their own government is open and rife for abuse."
1. You have proved your bias to banned players
2.Who are you to speak on my feeling on someone? I have not acted in anyway unreasonable when it comes to the Fashion Police work. If your going to claim that we the Fashion Police have this issue show the proof of it.

When is it ever okay to cheat to win? Like seriously real election in real world, tell me what would happen?

" I dont think so personally because they did not

a) encourage violence against anyone
b) they did not encourage hacking or violence of Ximboland "

Like you said you personally don't but everyone else who is on the site day to day does. You was told they threatened to chop people legs off but thats not violence right?

You actually have no idea how the PH runs and what they can and can't do. Your knowelwedge on how it runs comes from 3 years ago. Maybe you should ask PB, SMs and FP how they do things and how it works because clearly you have no clue.

Check reports, it's filled with bots. But since you probaly won't heres a profile link to a bot with a link in their about me - https://ximbo.land/ximbo/cqmvvs45/87938

If you bring these unbanned players back please remove my FP tools when you do because i will not sit there and be harrassed by these people because that is what they do. In fact i will probably leave all together.

12.12.2023 17:53:32
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Pollyx
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Antitheocra
12.12.2023 18:34:32
Pollyx

Hi, Chris. Please read this message. Long post, but important.

If you continue down this road you are going to destroy your site. You are going to lose all of the best people, people who have been here for years. You are going to lose new people who love the site, too. You are going to lose the Pink House and FP. You are not just going to have no opposition for PB, you will have absolutely zero people who want to run. It is already difficult to gain new SMs, and you will quickly have none. You will have NO democracy, you will have NO government, you will have NO ONE spending money in the treasury. I mean this in the most literal extreme sense, not as a threat but as a warning. This is serious. You are going to destroy your site. You are going to lose even the few people who want to be in this government.

Right now you are making a decent amount of passive income from a site that essentially run itself based on the passion of players. You are going to lose that. Your site will not function. Without passionate people to run it, not only will nothing be improved for players but existing things players enjoy and respect will fall apart.

You are insulting your player base. You are insulting the Pink House and members of FP. You are insulting people who not only pay your bills but run your site for you. Right now you seem to have no idea how good you have it to do so little work and have people who are willing to run your site FOR you out of pure love and passion alone, and all they expect in return is basic respect and for you to not completely tear apart this site for your unrealistic ideals that DO NOT match with site culture or needs.

I am a newer player but I am a passionate player. I ADORE this site when it is free from totalitarian control and drama. I would love to be PB at some point, or thought I would love to until now! I have the time and I have the passion and work ethic, but I would NOT run if you hold threats of taking office, allowing unlimited alt accounts, allowing dangerous activity onsite, make hate speech allowed, etc. I would not want to put my work into a site if you are just going to come in and change everything and hurt the players and hurt the PH. I recently became an SM at the beginning of December, but your announcements and this thread have created an unbelievable amount of stress for people who run your site for you and YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THEM. Long-term players (like Kirsty above!) are going to abandon this site and leave you scrambling when you have no idea how the site runs day-to-day! You are acting like players and PH and FP will "understand" your ideas enough and accept them and everything will be how you want, but that is not how it will go. You are seriously going to lose your best people, the people you rely on to run your site for you.

Your players and FP and PH are not LAZY, they are hardworking, passionate people who RUN YOUR SITE FOR YOU. For FREE. We even pay for the privilege. You look at this, at this passion, at these users who almost unilaterally disagree with you and dislike these ideas, and you spit in their faces. I would advise extreme caution. Continuing down this road is not going to "fix" your site according to your ideas, it is going to destroy it. Your actions are going to tear your site apart at the seams.

This is going to be my last post in this thread. I have been quiet after my first post because of the headache this has caused and I simply cannot handle this behavior anymore. This is ruining the site for people who come here for the community and to play a game they like. It may not be exactly what you want and YOU may not care about the dress-up game, but that's what everyone else is here for, and if you force them to engage with content like what you have put above, you will not have a site anymore, you will not make money off it it anymore. There's not really anything else to say.

Everyone, take care of yourselves, stop reading this thread if you can, and happy holidays.

12.12.2023 18:34:32
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KatieBoutique
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Atheista
12.12.2023 18:46:41
KatieBoutique

Who is eligible to vote in a state or PB election?
I am going from memory...
You have to be at a certain level and need to pass the citizenship test.

Need verification of that.

12.12.2023 18:46:41

bxdcherri
Level 187
Status: Citizen
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Reputation: 74701
Posts: 2022
Reasonopia
12.12.2023 18:49:54
bxdcherri

Yeah, I wanted to run for PB too polly, but not after this. You have completely ignored most points, and made excuses for others. There's countless evidence in this thread where people have demonstrated they do not like your ideas. There's countless evidence where you have demonstrated you don't know how your own site works, asking players and PH to explain things you don't even know are happening. You are encouraging us to challenge the government. WE ARE. WE ARE LITERALLY TELLING YOU WE HATE YOUR IDEAS AND YOU ARE WRONG.

You've thrown everything we've said back in our faces and have the audacity to call us lazy whilst we pay you to run your own site. It's despicable. As a State Minister, I do everything I can to keep players happy and involved in the site and they are the ONLY reason I am still paying you and still playing this GAME.

12.12.2023 18:49:54

Blecky89
Level 235
Status: State Minister
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Posts: 26333
Freethinkerland
12.12.2023 19:13:07
Blecky89

KatieBoutique wrote:
Who is eligible to vote in a state or PB election?
I am going from memory...
You have to be at a certain level and need to pass the citizenship test.

Need verification of that.
You need to be lvl 21. For SM elections can vote state members for PB elections all Ximboland. 

12.12.2023 19:13:07
    

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