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Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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Created
01.12.2023
Author
Miss Bimbo
Miss Bimbo
Level 36
Status: President
Sex Appeal: 35169
Reputation: 40876
Posts: 286
bimbo-city
12.12.2023 16:58:25
Miss Bimbo

bxdcherri wrote:
Chris, bots have their own emails. We get multiple reports a day about bot accounts. They are 100% on this site.
What if I tell you that its not possible for a bot to go through a series of steps that only manual humans can do? 

12.12.2023 16:58:25

Dye96
Level 238
Status: Citizen
Sex Appeal: 11412623
Reputation: 299744
Posts: 2356
Freethinkerland
12.12.2023 17:00:10
Dye96

Miss Bimbo wrote:
Dye96 wrote:
And with this, I'm not going to engage in this anymore. Allowing manual bots do whatever the fuck they want just because no bot is involved shows your priorities on the game.

Wishing you the best of luck!
Whats a manual bot? 
I am proposing that anyone can have as many hand made manual accounts as they wish as long as they are all manually created and managed ie one email per account per account. Whats wrong with that?
democracy still wins because the most popular person and/or teh hardest working person will win
My bad, meant a manual alt. Hope you have fun :D 

12.12.2023 17:00:10
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Blecky89
Level 235
Status: State Minister
Sex Appeal: 10907176
Reputation: 779724
Posts: 26333
Freethinkerland
12.12.2023 17:03:40
Blecky89

Miss Bimbo wrote:
So why do I have 20 people asking for theior accounts back? Are you saying they are here but just want their old banned accounts back?

From your list only one is back. But there are few more that we know of who was from cowboys who are back in game and is playing freely.
So yeah that's how terrible we the 'government' are .. 

12.12.2023 17:03:40
    
bxdcherri
Level 187
Status: Citizen
Sex Appeal: 5198371
Reputation: 74701
Posts: 2022
Reasonopia
12.12.2023 17:05:10
bxdcherri

Miss Bimbo wrote:
Can someone please give me one good reason why we shouldn't have as many accounts as we wish ? If I have the time and inclination to create 50 Ximbos with 50 emails then so what? Some would say I deserve to win an election based on that hardwork alone 
1) You can rig elections. That’s not democratic. 
2) You can rig PXFC
3) You could rig other fashion contests 
4) You can farm reputation points, sex appeal, etc. by fighting yourself and duelling yourself. 
5) Info for traffic on the site and how much the site is worth would be incorrect. 
6) Every SM could be one person. 
7) All data regarding senators to paying members would be inaccurate, losing the site value. 
8) The economy would crash. 
9) There is no longer any value or achievement behind the stats youve earned. There’s no definitive way to tell whether you have earned your account points genuinely or just farmed them using alts. 
10) There’s no feeling of accomplishment left in the game, therefore it discourages players still working hard for their stats, and for the ones who have maxed out their accounts, there’s no longer a need for them to stay. 



12.12.2023 17:05:10

Gemima1984
Level 111
Status: Citizen
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Reputation: 60107
Posts: 1984
Atheista
12.12.2023 17:23:15
Gemima1984

Firstly I'd like to apologise for breaking a rule to make this point. The account is already set to emigrate. Another account name also shows up when I'm making one here, that was one I was forced to make because I was stuck on the make a new bimbo screen, I emigrated that one immediately after making it because I was then able to log out and then log into my actual account.

But fun fact! You can make an alt account in under 60 seconds using a temporary email address, it's that easy. That's how easily somebody can rig an election that way.

Please excuse the missing segment in the middle. I trimmed out identifying information about myself.





12.12.2023 17:23:15
Miss Bimbo
Level 36
Status: President
Sex Appeal: 35169
Reputation: 40876
Posts: 286
bimbo-city
12.12.2023 17:23:20
Miss Bimbo

Can you please elaborate on these a little bit further - 

1) You can rig elections. That’s not democratic.

I dont think you can rig elections - not without a hell of a lot of hard work. Lets say I want to be PB. So what can i do ? I can create 50 alt accounts and vote for myself but that will take me hours and drive me insane. Equally you could create 50 accounts so I may not even win even after i spend hours doing that alt work. 

Anyway elections at present can equally be rigged in another way ie in the sense that no one is policing the police and so we can see how lately there is no one saying anything bad about the government/standing for election against the incumbent PB. Thats the election being effected in another way right? 

2) You can rig PXFC

yes same as above. If someone cares that much to create 50 accounts just to win then they deserve it? Equally now you could say its rigged in other ways.

3) You could rig other fashion contests

same as above

4) You can farm reputation points, sex appeal, etc. by fighting yourself and duelling yourself.

true but if everyone can do this what is negative about this? Most people simply won't be bothered to create and manage so many accounts. Who can be bothered with that? 

5) Info for traffic on the site and how much the site is worth would be incorrect.

So what. Not relevant. 


6) Every SM could be one person.

unlikely

7) All data regarding senators to paying members would be inaccurate, losing the site value.

So what. Not relevant.

8) The economy would crash.

How so?

9) There is no longer any value or achievement behind the stats youve earned. There’s no definitive way to tell whether you have earned your account points genuinely or just farmed them using alts.

You will not know who is an alt and who is not. Achievement will still be the same as most people will still have their one 'main' account. 

10) There’s no feeling of accomplishment left in the game, therefore it discourages players still working hard for their stats, and for the ones who have maxed out their accounts, there’s no longer a need for them to stay.

i disagree 



12.12.2023 17:23:20

Gemima1984
Level 111
Status: Citizen
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Posts: 1984
Atheista
12.12.2023 17:27:22
Gemima1984

Chris you can make 50 alts in under an hour, just saying.

12.12.2023 17:27:22
Miss Bimbo
Level 36
Status: President
Sex Appeal: 35169
Reputation: 40876
Posts: 286
bimbo-city
12.12.2023 17:30:31
Miss Bimbo

So it takes 1 hour to create 50 accounts. But who has got eth time to be bothered with that? And what can Karol do to slow that down even further? You are talking about creating an alt account but not actually voting as well. If we alter the sign up process and also make the process of voting slow and painful then no one is going to waste hours and hours of their lives voting for 60 alt account are they?
And if they do then they deserve to win! 


Gemima1984
wrote:
Firstly I'd like to apologise for breaking a rule to make this point. The account is already set to emigrate. Another account name also shows up when I'm making one here, that was one I was forced to make because I was stuck on the make a new bimbo screen, I emigrated that one immediately after making it because I was then able to log out and then log into my actual account.

But fun fact! You can make an alt account in under 60 seconds using a temporary email address, it's that easy. That's how easily somebody can rig an election that way.

Please excuse the missing segment in the middle. I trimmed out identifying information about myself.




12.12.2023 17:30:31

Honey Beee
Level 212
Status: Senator
Sex Appeal: 7612283
Reputation: 135496
Posts: 2706
Secville
12.12.2023 17:32:16
Honey Beee

I feel like if a person rigs elections it would be the equivalent to bimbo treason and that’s the evil nature of alts

12.12.2023 17:32:16

Gemima1984
Level 111
Status: Citizen
Sex Appeal: 1084790
Reputation: 60107
Posts: 1984
Atheista
12.12.2023 17:34:31
Gemima1984

Personally I'd prefer the person who worked hard on their programme and on improving the site and community over the person who "worked hard" by grinding out a bunch of alts.

12.12.2023 17:34:31

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