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Ximboland Clock

Ximboland democracy failures and how to address it

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Created
01.12.2023
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Miss Bimbo
Miss Bimbo
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bimbo-city
11.12.2023 12:58:05
Miss Bimbo

ShiloSweets wrote:
I’d like to add my two cents as feedback, not so much as looking to join this discussion. 

Firstly, it’s the bringing in of real life politics and drama that is discouraging me right now. I come here for escape, to roleplay as something I can’t be or do in real life. I’d say a lot of us do that on the internet in general. The mention of outside problems ruins the fantasy in my mind. 

Secondly, we all have bigger fish to fry than site politics. I haven’t had my Senator benefits for two months now despite my statements showing I’m paying for it. so clearly the behind the scenes support needs way more work. Our PB is doing her best to resolve this for me, meanwhile I’ve still heard nothing from the email I sent via “contact us” link. 
We should be asking ourselves what WE can be doing to improve the website. If you have the skills to get involved, DO IT! As for those who have the skills, create a new forum corner to sharing knowledge so more can learn. Financial difficulties aren't the only thing stopping us in participating. It’s not enough to give a list of what PBs and SMs do, we need to see how these things get done. It’s like telling someone to learn an entirely new language without any support beyond a singular book. 

I haven’t been around long, nor have I been as active as I was at first. When I joined I found a lovely, welcoming community of ADULTS. Where I could be something I can’t be irl. I can be provocative and flirty. I can dress up like a stripper or a slutty centaur! And there was this unspoken mutual agreement that it’s all roleplay! It’s all fake! No one can get hurt! We can all safely act like dumb but secretly intelligent materialistic whores that like to ~sniff sniff puff puff glug glug~. No talk of violence or of real world tragedies. I saw this place as a Barbie land. Like a place in Sweden. Untouched by the outside world except for serious drama. I had no idea so much drama had been brewing…

In conclusion. My opinion. Leave real world affairs out of this game and let this be the one site for adults to be something other than a orc or elf or whatever mythical races all the other sites and games have. Provide accessible resources for those who are interested in doing more for our community. A democracy cannot survive without civil support networks / structures. Please, don’t let this place crumble. 
Every community has politics - whether that's family politics, school politics, friendship politics, world politics etc So you cant avoid it even if you wish to. So better embrace it and make it work the best we can.
One huge advantage we have over other sites is me (Miss Bimbo). I am a neutral President whom simply wishes to have the best site and community we can be. I am non partisan in that I don't care whom is PB as long as they are a Bimbo patriot like me . I create a healthy check and balance that most sites do not have. think of me like the Queen of England 

11.12.2023 12:58:05

Miss Bimbo
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bimbo-city
11.12.2023 12:59:24
Miss Bimbo

ladabunni wrote:
LillyAnn wrote:
ladabunni wrote:
If the people cant critique the government, it is not a democracy.

Since most of the bimbos in power are right wing anti sjw etc, I have observed bimbos being able to harass and act in highly inappropriate ways in the name of making fun of what they deem woke or sjw. They receive no real consequences and are friends with the people in power of the game. That makes any political engagement by people who does not share this right wing view pointless because the "government" is biased. Id rather just enjoy the game and the friendships Ive made here... If you raise your voice you are met with aggression and condecending responses. But for some reason its okay to harass people in racist and transphobic ways.... It makes no sense... So its not really a democracy is it??

Anyway Chris is delusional and this is all laughable, but frustrating... Are we children or adults here? 

Also "Richard Fromage" LOOOL you guys really think we are stupid dont you? I am getting so tired of this stuff. I am disgusted by you adult people behaving like literal kids. You are thirsty for drama and love feeling like victimized right wing people.

And, LilyAnn we get it you are right wing! Good for you. Your post about Greta and Tate was lame. 

Im tired.
Stop oppressing minorities! Are you not tired of THAT? Is that a democracy for you?

I know what you have against me but what Richard Fromage did to you? Don't believe it's real account and real person?

You truly are so oppressed in this community aren't you. Your irony is like the rhetoric of a 15 year old edgy teenager who wants to own some libs. Its not 2016 anymore. Also you are an adult...

Lol Richard Fromage who doesnt play the game and joined because of this thread... Wow how noble of him to share his valuable thoughts on the matter. And how convenient of Katie to put it all together so we all can read and absorb the great wisdom and knowledge... I wonder what the intent was exactly? What I do know is that its funny and silly af... And, just by first glance, it all looks like the same cringe role playing bs we have seen times before from Chris & the crew. 

This kind of "drama" is not new to us. And it is the same thing every time. It is transparent and it brings nothing productive to the site. It only leaves players confused and then it blows over... Until a couple of months later when someone gets bored and hungry for some nice forum drama again.
As above. We are a community. Communities always have difference and conflict - the question is how to we grow carefully and successfully and lovingly

11.12.2023 12:59:24

Miss Bimbo
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bimbo-city
11.12.2023 13:00:43
Miss Bimbo

Gemima1984 wrote:
Hi Chris,

Everybody keeps debating what the community wants. Maybe it would be helpful to gather feedback via a survey with set questions? Ask people what components of the game/website they are interested in, ask them about the rules etc. You could probably develop a useful survey with the Pink House staff and then get some evidence for any necessary changes? And be transparent, share the full results with the community and the proposed changes based on what the community says they want. 
Good idea thanks

11.12.2023 13:00:43

bxdcherri
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Reasonopia
11.12.2023 14:25:18
bxdcherri

Erm, not sure wtf has happened here - Lilly is not Richard lmao, where did that come from? Richard is my bf. He knows so much about the site because I talk to him about it daily, and he had his own points he wanted to make alongside my own. I told him to make an account and voice them if he wanted to and he did. Hope that clears things up!

And to add - Lada you are incorrect, sorry. I'm unsure where you have got your info from, but the site is majorly left leaning. I just need to clear that up so no further misinformation is spread. For anyone else who is unsure of where people lie with their politics, you can read the state ideologies on the map. Yes, most users chose their state based on the color or the picture, but the info is still there and it's a good place to start. Any active users who engage with people on the forums can clearly see the site is left leaning. But even so - I don't see an issue with that. I don't see an issue with it being right leaning either. I don't think peoples political stance should be a problem to anyone, at all, or the site. Let people believe what they want to believe, have opinions, have discussions, whatever. We are always welcoming of people to discuss topics, and encourage people to do so, political or not. But saying that right leaning players are victimizing themselves here is starting unnecessary drama. Lets all chill the fuck out and move on from this. Chris is known for coming out of the woodwork every couple of years, causing some drama to increase site engagement, and then dipping. It's what he's doing now. He's just here to piss off the community to get a bit of revenue, whilst he waits for someone to buy the site from him. Let it be.


11.12.2023 14:25:18

Richard Fromage
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Reasonopia
11.12.2023 15:43:18
Richard Fromage

ladabunni wrote:
Also "Richard Fromage" LOOOL you guys really think we are stupid dont you? I am getting so tired of this stuff. I am disgusted by you adult people behaving like literal kids. You are thirsty for drama and love feeling like victimized right wing people.


I'm not really sure what your issue with me is here. To be honest, I hadn't planned on responding to anyone other than Chris on this thread but it seems like you have grouped me into something that I lack the relevant context to understand.

My whole point can be boiled down to this: I think it's foolish of Chris/Miss Bimbo to be forcefully inserting his own political ideology onto this website, when it's painfully clear he's so out of the loop with the community, how it functions, what the players want and what the players are actually on this website to do. From what I can tell, Chris is aiming for a goal that is the polar opposite of what the community at large is aiming for. 

Is that clear?

Respectfully, help me understand what you are talking about.

Thanks,
Richi Käse



11.12.2023 15:43:18
KatieBoutique
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Atheista
11.12.2023 16:05:18
KatieBoutique

Thank you for the compliment Miss Bimbo and Sweeeeeeet as Nuts.  I thought your log in gag was funny.
I also think LillyAnn's posts are funny.
I think Richard Fromage is funny too.

You have talked about some very interesting things. 
I think this thread is very informative and creative so far.
More than ever...I think this place is a land filled with besties.

11.12.2023 16:05:18

ShiloSweets
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Secville
11.12.2023 18:58:27
ShiloSweets

Miss Bimbo wrote:
ShiloSweets wrote:
I’d like to add my two cents as feedback, not so much as looking to join this discussion. 

Firstly, it’s the bringing in of real life politics and drama that is discouraging me right now. I come here for escape, to roleplay as something I can’t be or do in real life. I’d say a lot of us do that on the internet in general. The mention of outside problems ruins the fantasy in my mind. 

Secondly, we all have bigger fish to fry than site politics. I haven’t had my Senator benefits for two months now despite my statements showing I’m paying for it. so clearly the behind the scenes support needs way more work. Our PB is doing her best to resolve this for me, meanwhile I’ve still heard nothing from the email I sent via “contact us” link. 
We should be asking ourselves what WE can be doing to improve the website. If you have the skills to get involved, DO IT! As for those who have the skills, create a new forum corner to sharing knowledge so more can learn. Financial difficulties aren't the only thing stopping us in participating. It’s not enough to give a list of what PBs and SMs do, we need to see how these things get done. It’s like telling someone to learn an entirely new language without any support beyond a singular book. 

I haven’t been around long, nor have I been as active as I was at first. When I joined I found a lovely, welcoming community of ADULTS. Where I could be something I can’t be irl. I can be provocative and flirty. I can dress up like a stripper or a slutty centaur! And there was this unspoken mutual agreement that it’s all roleplay! It’s all fake! No one can get hurt! We can all safely act like dumb but secretly intelligent materialistic whores that like to ~sniff sniff puff puff glug glug~. No talk of violence or of real world tragedies. I saw this place as a Barbie land. Like a place in Sweden. Untouched by the outside world except for serious drama. I had no idea so much drama had been brewing…

In conclusion. My opinion. Leave real world affairs out of this game and let this be the one site for adults to be something other than a orc or elf or whatever mythical races all the other sites and games have. Provide accessible resources for those who are interested in doing more for our community. A democracy cannot survive without civil support networks / structures. Please, don’t let this place crumble. 
Every community has politics - whether that's family politics, school politics, friendship politics, world politics etc So you cant avoid it even if you wish to. So better embrace it and make it work the best we can.
One huge advantage we have over other sites is me (Miss Bimbo). I am a neutral President whom simply wishes to have the best site and community we can be. I am non partisan in that I don't care whom is PB as long as they are a Bimbo patriot like me . I create a healthy check and balance that most sites do not have. think of me like the Queen of England 

I want to support you, I really do Your tone deaf reply is astonishing, and not in a good way. Comparing yourself to England royalty is laughable however. 

You have bigger fish to fry, my Queen. Your economy is busted and you’re stealing from the lower classes. I wonder how many other peoples Senatorship benefits have disappeared yet money was still being withdrawn and can’t get an answer from you or the current team you have. 

Furthermore, please point out to me where I said I was not okay with the politics of ximboland? I think it’s a fantastic idea! But not with REAL LIFE EVENTS AND POLITICS interfering! I don’t want to see you as the queen of England because she’s REAL. She’s done real damage (also some good)). Why aren’t you happy simply being Miss Bimbo? Until now, Miss Bimbo in my eyes had been a sexy, strong leader. Nooowww I’m worried she’s more interested in a dictatorship. I personally dislike the involvement of real world events, scenarios, etc. because it interferes with the fantasy. The fantasy that us bimbos and himbos and every Bo in between has a place to express themselves without judgement. To meet likeminded individuals and roleplay about things we can’t do. I simply want our site politics to stick to our site. Why do we need a queen of England when Miss Bimbo already exists? 

I like the idea of holding a few polls to let the site decide, on anything really. A fair democracy allows for as many voices to be heard as possible. Perhaps alongside regular elections for SMs and PBs we may also consider making ballots for what improvements will be focused on during the term. Consider expanding the government and create a sort of court judge. Their role would be to provide support for the SMs and help lighten the load, perhaps this role could be accessible to those who don’t have senatorship. I continue to think that providing a dedicated forum to helping people interested in getting involved either in site politics or development would be beneficial as well. 

Thank you for your time Miss Bimbo. 

11.12.2023 18:58:27
May the new year bring you peace, happiness and security. May your mascara never run and your lipstick never fade!
ladabunni
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Atheista
11.12.2023 19:13:47
ladabunni

LillyAnn wrote:
Ok, let's sum it all up...

a) Richard Fromage = Chris
b) Richard Fromage = Katie
c) Richard Fromage = Chris = Katie  ==> Katie = Chris
d) Richard Fromage = LillyAnn
e) We are all the same person
f) something else

Can you explain what exactly do you want to say?

And yes, I am oppressed right now, you are picking on me unprovoked and without a clear reason. Based on you I am right wing. We righties are minority here among all of you anarchists, marxists, communists, SJWs and extreme leftist. Based on YOUR politics minorities are oppressed by default. Or, maybe your politics is made only to serve you and your causes?

It is transparent and it brings nothing productive to the site. It only leaves players confused and then it blows over...
Right, it's transparent you are making confusion on purpose, bring nothing productive and blowing it out of proportion. Oh, wait, didn't you say in previous post you just want to play a dress up game? I am seriously confused right now about what you really want.

I am disgusted by you adult people behaving like literal kids.
Are you disgusted by yourself as well? Since so far you are the one acting like a kid who cries for some attention and is thirsty for drama. After all maybe you are a literal kid so you don't count yourself as an 'adult behaving like a literal kid' even tho the site is 18+. Now I am really curious about your real age... See, you are spreading a confusing again!

You know what Lada, I remember well of talk you and your friend had with me. I thought we cleared up some things back then. Now, because the "government" is biased be honest and say did I ban you back then for attacking me? Did I jail you? Did I forum ban you or even warn you? If I did, find these jail and ban messages and post screenshots right here. Stop acting like a victim because clearly you aren't one.
I never said who this Richard Fromage is or isn't. I said that those posts are silly, weird and playing along with whatever roleplaying ambitions some people very clearly seem to have here. It just made me laugh. And the fact that Katie put it together like that, is also very weird to me... It is transparent. 

Okay Lily you are claiming to be oppressed? Are you even serious with that claim? I honestly don't believe that you think you are being oppressed right know. Do you know what that word means? And well yes, you just admitted to being right wing. There is nothing wrong with that. How many times have you been attacked for being right wing on here? No body cares, you can believe what you want. You are the one claiming that you are oppressed by all the scary communists and lefties on the site. Can you show me an example of that? Everyone is kind and civil here and I have never seen anyone attack anyone for their political beleifs, except for Butterfly and Auntielice, some admins and Chris. Everyone else just wants to have a kind and friendly community with each other. 

You tell me that based on MY politics, minorities are oppressed by default. Wtf? So you believe that it means that every minority in any context is oppressed? That is laughable. Are you misinterpreting on purpose? That is so juvenile... I want to believe you are capable enough of understanding what oppression means. Just because you are the only one with a pink dress in a room of people with purple dresses, does not mean you are oppressed. I don't think I even have to explain that to you? You are playing dumb right. Again, you are the one making accusations on what you consider SJWS, marxists, communists, anarchists etc... No one is telling you what you believe. I am pointing out the ridiculousness of your behaviour, and it seems like you are fishing for drama. 

No one is telling you that you cant be right wing. It seems to be a fantasy made up scenario that everyone here who does not share your beleifs are attacking  you and your friends, whom hold power in this game. Nobody cares! 

No, I am not disgusted by myself. Your arguments are weak. And yeah very mature, speculating about my ''real age''. 

I remember that talk Lily. But I keep seeing the same thing happening again and again. Are you happy with everyone being like, oh that is just Lily getting a bit aggresive and angry again, let's just let her blow off her steam and pretend like nothing happened. Is that how you want to be percieved? And I didn't attack you then. I stand for everything I have said, past and present and I was being kind and tried to understand where you are coming from. You were PB then and I had respect for what you did that term. I wanted to look past your questionable behaviour. 

I have never claimed to be a victim, you are the one doing that, claiming you are oppressed. You are even telling me I am oppressing you. Do you realize how you are acting?


11.12.2023 19:13:47
 
KirstyD8
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Freethinkerland
11.12.2023 21:37:31
KirstyD8

1. Don't speak on behalf of people or in your words "everyone" and no i don't see Lilly as getting aggresive and angry like most people probably don't. I see someome responding to a comment that was a subtle dig about "friends in PH' and thought you was talking about her so she said something.
2. Stay on topic. This is to everyone. We have left this thread be with whatever people have posted but don't think we won't start getting involved.
3. Take your personal issues to PMs.
4. Remember the rules. Need a refresh? Heres a link to it - https://ximbo.land/forum/rules-ximboland-forum-rules/t7268#post_839338

11.12.2023 21:37:31
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dollondisplay
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Secville
11.12.2023 23:43:02
dollondisplay

Y'know, I get this a lot (have only read the initial post so far and I so don't have the time or energy to sift through all the responses) but I think it could've been executed in a way that opened the discussion more instead of getting people's defenses up.

I think it partially has something to do with the nature of the internet itself at this point. Social media has really shifted away from a community focus and is now focused on marketing and promoting individualism in a very capitalistic, industrialized sense. It's a lot harder to connect with people online than it was 10-15 years ago! Hell, it was only about 6 years ago that I started seeing people leaving various social medias because they'd started realizing how much the sites had been taking over their lives.

I'm really enjoying this site so far and I absolutely do hope to be more active in the community aspects eventually. I might even run for Prime Ximbo eventually if I feel up for the job! I do, however, also have a life and responsibilities that are a lot more pressing than anything going on here. Being told that only one Prime Ximbo being on the ballot is a failure on every individual's part? Not it, fam. I know we aren't all from the US here, but the entire world is either enduring or witnessing turmoil and trauma. I highly doubt many people currently have the time, energy, or mental capacity to do what is essentially a Community Manager/Site Host position for far less than a living wage.

11.12.2023 23:43:02

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The Internet republic of Ximbo lands is the worlds first Internet republic.

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Where is MissBimbo.com? Miss Bimbo was much better than this site.
The Internet republic of Ximbo land was created by Miss Bimbo herself and is its more intelligent successor. The old site was for junior bimbos. This site is for intelligent Ximbos.

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