Kirsty/Iowa
Please see your messages below.
Here you are trying to address the discretion issue and thinking the solution to this is for me to become a dictator and remove the powers of the PB.
I dont agree with that.Thats the path to dictatorship again.
We have to have a government and PB that has the power to make decisions. Thats their earned right. That is the reward for winning the election. You guys often mention money but to me the real reward for winning the election is power. Money will come but first and foremost its power.
The power to decide who is a serious asshat and deserves time in jail to think about their behaviour. The power to decide the rules of the Town Square. The power to decide how liberal or illiberal we are as a nation. The power to decide how we should dress as a nation and what style is cool etc
Now in turn we as a society have to create a system that respects the right pf PB to be in subjective power but also keeps the government in check so that they dont go start raving bonkers and destroy the place forever. The mechanisms or leverages we have to do this are super senators, 2 month terms, a Presidentially protected area of the town square, max 3 week jail terms, no more banning of alts
Iowa wrote:
Please see your messages below.
Here you are trying to address the discretion issue and thinking the solution to this is for me to become a dictator and remove the powers of the PB.
I dont agree with that.Thats the path to dictatorship again.
We have to have a government and PB that has the power to make decisions. Thats their earned right. That is the reward for winning the election. You guys often mention money but to me the real reward for winning the election is power. Money will come but first and foremost its power.
The power to decide who is a serious asshat and deserves time in jail to think about their behaviour. The power to decide the rules of the Town Square. The power to decide how liberal or illiberal we are as a nation. The power to decide how we should dress as a nation and what style is cool etc
Now in turn we as a society have to create a system that respects the right pf PB to be in subjective power but also keeps the government in check so that they dont go start raving bonkers and destroy the place forever. The mechanisms or leverages we have to do this are super senators, 2 month terms, a Presidentially protected area of the town square, max 3 week jail terms, no more banning of alts
Iowa wrote:
KirstyD8 wrote:
2. I find this part interesting.
"A breach of peace jail term should be used sparingly and not be issued simply for questioning, mocking, undermining, disagreeing, abusing, insulting or offending another Ximbo. It should be reserved for serious persistent shithousery and is used at the personal discretion of the elected government/PB and fashion police."
Isn't this the issue players have a problem with, the personal discretion part? Why is nobody taking issue with it now? I thought people wanted some type of jailing tier, not the PB/FP descretion. Won't it still be the same then as it is now?i somehow completely missed this part and kirsty is absolutely right. like... what counts as "serious persistent shithousery" and who gets to decide that? i still think having clearly stated rules of what is and isn't allowed and what will happen if users break those rules is crucial. just leaving it up to personal discretion will lead to confusion about rules and punishments as well as uneven application of them, e.g. the response to an incident could be entirely dependent on which FP is online. keeping with the whole roleplay thing, in a real government or real society laws are not applied through an individual's personal discretion (or at least they're not supposed to be)
