my opinion on transitioning

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04.04.2024 03:08:23
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Cunning Linguist-

Yeah that did not say that some men are women and vise versa. This is just a study in guiding sex specific development of the brain using mice. The fact that very, I repeat very few people are born intersex (which is not a normality, something went wrong!) does not mean that a male can magically turn into a female.

 

Also like...there are different hair colors, different skin colors/ ethnicities and different sexualities omg do I have to start a class for you cause damn bro/sis? O.o Are they teaching common sense nowadays?

Iowa- ooh you got me mate, you bring articles before the 2000s of some people that are anti-gay? That men didn't want men that like men in the lockers. Woman don't want men in the lockers, not the same. Bros against bros.

 That some didn't believe gays are born gay? Men are not born woman is that the similarity? XD omg reaching!!

 Gays not being able to marry? Huh everyone can marry...so no similarity.

Religious beliefs are still religious beliefs which are protected. I have none soooo idk mate I really do try to understand everything you say. I should at least get props for that. :3



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04.04.2024 03:09:06
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No one was born trans

sue me

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04.04.2024 03:28:17
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Nobody was born in the wrong body they just have a mental disorder… imo I see HRT as a form of self harm in the majority of cases as it’s clearly just a cry for help and it’s sad to see all of these young (especially women nowadays) rushing to get surgeries to fit in with their trans positive group. This whole argument of “do you want a dead son or a trans daughter” and vice versa is SO SO SO predatory to parents in vulnerable positions it just coerces parents who just want the best for their child to turn their kids into cash cows. Trans is insidious.

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04.04.2024 03:38:08
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iowa thanks for posting all those examples, even though it seems to have gone over their heads. literally just recycled anti-gay rhetoric. people back then were just as freaked out by lesbians & gay men in locker rooms as they are about trans people in locker rooms today (despite plenty of evidence showing that trans people are more likely to be victims of sexual assault than perpetrators of it) 

all these anti-trans people would've been vehemently anti-gay if they were born back then....its just not AS socially acceptable to call gays freaks & pedos as it was back in the day. 

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04.04.2024 03:41:12
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cybeles wrote:

My point was that age should not be the point to determine whether a trans person can or can't access gender-affirming healthcare when there are so many factors in developing maturity. As a trans person who has gone through the public healthcare system, I spent over a year and a half with a gender clinician before even starting the process for HRT. A breast reduction surgery might not fall under gender affirming care, but a boob job on a cis woman who feels unfeminine because of her smaller cup size would be. The same way that older cis men get topical serums to prevent balding.

If an AFAB woman who has facial hair walks into the womans restroom, should she also face harassment and abuse? Of course trans people can be bad people. But they are not bad people BECAUSE they are trans. Every transfeminine person I've ever met has never even entered a space for women without first being invited there. Why? Because they don't want to face the real abuse happening in gender-specific bathrooms. Harassment from transphobes.

Trans women just want to be respected human beings. If standing up for the rights of some of the most marginalized people in the world makes me a misogynist, maybe you should consider why your definition of misogyny includes not discriminating another group of people in it.

What makes a transperson bad is entering a space fully aware that women are going to be scared of them and still not care. I am a tiny slender little thing, when I travel I am scared to go to the bathroom alone. It is so eerie in there at 2a.m, I'd pee my pants if I saw a dude pop out of a stall. My husband always stands by outside waiting, what a gent huh :3  lol I'm a minority too but holy shit, I'd be embarrassed to demand privilages above others. I also do not have a victim mentality because that is unproductive. Misogyny is sexism to keep women below men. Such as women say no to male presenting trans entering and you saying that they belong there no matter what we feel.Men rights above women's rights. Misogyny. I am telling you I need to become a teacher! lawlz ^.^

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04.04.2024 03:41:44
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Bimbo Pimp wrote:
Cunning Linguist-

Yeah that did not say that some men are women and vise versa. This is just a study in guiding sex specific development of the brain using mice. The fact that very, I repeat very few people are born intersex (which is not a normality, something went wrong!) does not mean that a male can magically turn into a female.

 

Also like...there are different hair colors, different skin colors/ ethnicities and different sexualities omg do I have to start a class for you cause damn bro/sis? O.o Are they teaching common sense nowadays?

Iowa- ooh you got me mate, you bring articles before the 2000s of some people that are anti-gay? That men didn't want men that like men in the lockers. Woman don't want men in the lockers, not the same. Bros against bros.

 That some didn't believe gays are born gay? Men are not born woman is that the similarity? XD omg reaching!!

 Gays not being able to marry? Huh everyone can marry...so no similarity.

Religious beliefs are still religious beliefs which are protected. I have none soooo idk mate I really do try to understand everything you say. I should at least get props for that. :3

just because the exact same language isn't used word for word does not mean that two arguments or situations are not comparable. you're conveniently leaving out that most of the newspaper clippings (these are not 'some people being anti-gay' btw, these were pervasive views at the time and still are today for some people) about predatory behavior were about lesbians. straight women didn't want lesbians in locker rooms because there was a perceived threat of 1. predatory lesbians and 2. increased risk of sexual harassment/assault and lack of privacy in women's facilities, when there was no evidence that that threat was real. the idea that lesbians were predators and a danger to other women (and especially young girls) was everywhere in media. now everybody put your thinking caps on and connect the dots...

i also do appreciate your engagement and attempts at understanding. its much better than ranting and raving about my genitals which is a reaction i get more often than you might think.

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04.04.2024 03:43:13
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That is pathetic!

woman attracted to men and wants to be a man is gay, straight or misogynist?

Cunning Linguist wrote:
iowa thanks for posting all those examples, even though it seems to have gone over their heads. literally just recycled anti-gay rhetoric. people back then were just as freaked out by lesbians & gay men in locker rooms as they are about trans people in locker rooms today (despite plenty of evidence showing that trans people are more likely to be victims of sexual assault than perpetrators of it) 

all these anti-trans people would've been vehemently anti-gay if they were born back then....its just not AS socially acceptable to call gays freaks & pedos as it was back in the day. 


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04.04.2024 04:02:44
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laughing at the idea that 'misogynist' is a sexuality

tho actually....with the andrew tate types it might as well be....

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04.04.2024 04:11:30
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Iowa wrote:

just because the exact same language isn't used word for word does not mean that two arguments or situations are not comparable. you're conveniently leaving out that most of the newspaper clippings (these are not 'some people being anti-gay' btw, these were pervasive views at the time and still are today for some people) about predatory behavior were about lesbians. straight women didn't want lesbians in locker rooms because there was a perceived threat of 1. predatory lesbians and 2. increased risk of sexual harassment/assault and lack of privacy in women's facilities, when there was no evidence that that threat was real. the idea that lesbians were predators and a danger to other women (and especially young girls) was everywhere in media. now everybody put your thinking caps on and connect the dots...

i also do appreciate your engagement and attempts at understanding. its much better than ranting and raving about my genitals which is a reaction i get more often than you might think.

Well darling you did say it was word for word so I took it literally.  I do not just watch what the media is saying and take it as the absolute truth. I do my own research, read bills and try my hardest to keep up with politics on both sides. Lesbians are women and idk about you but being as small as I am I can take a bitch down but a man? Not in this lifetime, doesn’t matter how much I work on building muscles. Sexual predation towards women has always been an issue, gotta check for cameras in the toilets and guard my drinks. If I see a trans trying to pass there is no issue, it is the self-identifying no need to transition weirdos that I’m worried about. Also, I have no interest in what genitals you are carrying. I am here to give my opinion and voice out my concerns. I do listen and try to put myself in other people’s shoes even when the shoes don’t seem to fit. People I’ve never interacted with keep blocking me, I guess because I’m a transphobe now. Lol A simple mind is not a blessing.




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04.04.2024 04:28:02
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ok you got me there lol i was being hyperbolic

for some context as someone within the community, trans people who don't transition usually have complex reasons for it. it might be because of a health issue that transitioning would exacerbate, or it would put them in danger at their job or with their family, or it might just be because they have a complicated relationship with themselves and their own body. but as i said before we are also very acutely aware of how other people see us. i know multiple trans women who are, in all settings outside of a single friend group, closeted. they do not use the women's restroom even though i go to a private university that has policies that allow trans students to use the bathroom of their gender identity. idk how else to explain this except to say that we really would rather not be publicly assaulted or cause a scene lol

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